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5th Nov 26 2:01 AM
ElGanador
Posts 62
To build or not to build
There is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that club ratings of 7500 or more are achieved by those with a full three tiers.

My current club rating is just under 7000.

My profits for this season (if I do nothing) will be in the region of 16m before tax - that is going to attract a hefty tax bill - I can cut some contracts that will expire next year, but it is not going to dent much. And there are no transfers I am interested in that will complete before the end of the season.

So I am considering a chunky investment in the stadium - but my TP is only at28, and being promoted to the top tier is going to have an impact on how attractive it is to turn up at my stadium and pay!
 
5th Nov 26 8:54 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,653
100% build.

If you have any sort of ambition to reach the top level of the game you're going to have to build at some point. A squad of 85+ rated players that you absolutely need for 7501 are only financially supportable on a maxed out stadium.

Filling at TP 28 is really good for your level. I dropped down to about TP 22 when I maxed out my stadium and I was still making more money than when I had a smaller stadium at a higher TP. TP will recover as you win more games.

From a pure profit basis, if you fill your stadium even at TP 25, you will take about 10-20 seasons to make your money back on each expansion (assuming about 20-25 homes games per season including cups) minus the extra bit of stadium maintenance costs. After that you're making profit on it. SO if you plan to be at your club in more than 20 seasons, the sooner you build, the sooner you make a profit. I can't remember the exact cost per seat of the third tier, so I'd appreciate it if you could remind me how much a stand costs and how many seats it's for so I can break down the costs for you exactly.

And if you're going to lose about 4M in tax anyway, most of which is because of the 10M+ profit tax band, then you might as well spend the money on an expansion. It's like getting a discount on the build cost.

I will have a profit of about 25M this season and no way to spend it. If I could expand my stadium more, I'd be doing it instantly.
 
5th Nov 26 12:45 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 376
As FS says, a no-brainer to build. There will be extra upkeep costs but they should hardly compare to your overall financials.

And if you needed more convincing, it gives you a small ratings boost.
 
5th Nov 26 1:04 PM
roland68
Posts 651
I agree with the above replies, if there ae no players available who can strengthen your squad, then rather than let the money disappear to the taxman, invest it in your stadium.

I see your club valuation is 108m, I'm not sure how much the stadium expansion costs but even if you dropped below 100m and lost some CR, it wouldn't matter short term as you're still far away form the next level you want to achieve. You'd soon get that back from larger attendance income before too long.


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Originally posted by chyperhondriac

And if you needed more convincing, it gives you a small ratings boost.


I never noticed this while my team was progressing and expanding but I've seen a few managers say that expanding stadium gives a CR boost. Any idea how much it gives?
 
5th Nov 26 1:15 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,653
Quote:
Originally posted by roland68
I never noticed this while my team was progressing and expanding but I've seen a few managers say that expanding stadium gives a CR boost. Any idea how much it gives?

Only a really tiny amount, but they add up over multiple expansions. There's probably around 100 rating points on the table for the OP's club if he maxes out the stadium.
 
5th Nov 26 3:13 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 376
Quote:
Originally posted by roland68
I never noticed this while my team was progressing and expanding but I've seen a few managers say that expanding stadium gives a CR boost. Any idea how much it gives?

Back when I was shooting for 7501 I recorded all this and calculated it at an unusual 11 points per 1000 seats. Not much, but it all adds up.
 
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