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6th Jul 25 12:34 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
Experience of a Player
Experience certainly is a factor, I'm not sure how big of a factor but I've noticed certain players base value increase alongside their experience.. I've also noticed a slight difference in the team preview rating,,, for example,, a 79 rated player with experience is better than a 80 rated player without it and this is shown on the preview matchday rating.
 
6th Jul 25 12:41 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
Quote:
Originally posted by KaneW
Experience certainly is a factor, I'm not sure how big of a factor but I've noticed certain players base value increase alongside their experience.. I've also noticed a slight difference in the team preview rating,,, for example,, a 79 rated player with experience is better than a 80 rated player without it and this is shown on the preview matchday rating.


Even though these two players have the same form and the 80 rated player has better overall key stats than the 79rated player, the matchday preview rating is saying the 79 rated player is better
 
6th Jul 25 2:32 PM
Benje0123
Posts 16
I've always found this interesting,

I wonder if a fully trained players rating will increase if his experience increases?
 
6th Jul 25 3:16 PM
roland68
Posts 605
Experience doesn't change a player's overall rating or preview.

I've had players fully trained with experience still below 20, they don't improve as experience increases up to 100.
 
6th Jul 25 5:45 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
They don't improve overall rating with experience no but I see that the base value does improve with rise of experience

As for matchday preview I have the perfect example right now which made me find this conclusion...

My fully trained player "Augusto Mouche" 79 rated, when playing with a lone striker gives my matchday preview 80 in the attack segment but when "Icarus Elias" 80 rated is lone striker, my preview attack rating is below 80
 
6th Jul 25 5:58 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
Yep, just checked it again... There's a full point difference... Icarus Elias(80) is giving attack segment 79 and Augusto Mouche(79) is giving attack segment 80

The only difference is Augusto Mouche is more experienced yet he's giving my matchday preview a point extra so how do we explain that Roland? And the rise of Augusto Mouches value as his experience gets higher,,, because he's been fully trained from my staff for over a season now but his value has got higher
 
6th Jul 25 7:00 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,349
Quote:
Originally posted by KaneW
The only difference is Augusto Mouche is more experienced

This is incorrect unfortunately Kane. They have different individual stats which are accounting for the preview difference.
 
6th Jul 25 8:31 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
This is incorrect unfortunately Kane. They have different individual stats which are accounting for the preview difference.


If that's the case then delete this post lol... But what about Mouches rise in value after he has been fully trained by my staff?
 
6th Jul 25 11:35 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,349
Player values fluctuate. I have two of the highest valuation players in the game. A few seasons ago, they were numbers 1 and 3. However, their values have dropped slightly recently as they have had injuries and dropped in rating slightly and failed to fully regain their value even after being trained back up.

There is no need to delete your thread, though, because there is valuable information than can be gleaned from it- if you ask the right questions.
 
7th Jul 25 2:51 AM
roland68
Posts 605
Quote:
Originally posted by KaneW
Yep, just checked it again... There's a full point difference... Icarus Elias(80) is giving attack segment 79 and Augusto Mouche(79) is giving attack segment 80

The only difference is Augusto Mouche is more experienced yet he's giving my matchday preview a point extra so how do we explain that Roland? And the rise of Augusto Mouches value as his experience gets higher,,, because he's been fully trained from my staff for over a season now but his value has got higher



It's not the only difference between them. Look at their individual stats, are they all the same? Look at their Mental, Physical & Technical ratings? Are they all the same? They're not.

I've also had a few cases of this unexpected imbalance between rating and preview. Not so long ago, I had a 91-rated striker previewing at 89, while at the same time I had a 90-rated striker previewing at 91. There have been other examples too.

Why? Well, it's not experience. As Firesilver mentioned, preview seems to be based on certain stats of the player.

As for value changes, I don't monitor value closely as it's irrelevant, but yes, it varies. I don't know what factors influence that, maybe experience is one of them but that wasn't your original question.
 
7th Jul 25 1:14 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
My observation was wrong then, I thought id found an infinitesimal link with experience seeming the overall ratings of players and matchday previews were showing differently, and the rise of value with fully trained players lol nevermind
 
7th Jul 25 2:13 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,349
I think you're missing an essential point here though Kane- and one that allowed me to make a (2) ranked club when the game was reset and we all started with 10-rated players. It's less important at this stage of the game when everyone has 80 and 90 rated players, but it can give you a big head start on getting your youths to their maximum possible preview as quickly as possible if you can work it out. It has nothing to do with experience, but it is to do with the key trainable attributes. I think I've given you enough hints now, you can find out what they are on your own- there is a very helpful page somewhere on the website that will point you in the right direction (although it's not in the Help Files where you might expect it to be and it's not exhaustive).
 
7th Jul 25 5:27 PM
roland68
Posts 605
While writing my last reply, I was originally going to suggest Kane look at a particular page. Then I looked at the thread again and saw:

Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
there is valuable information than can be gleaned from it- if you ask the right questions.


and thought FS doesn't want to give anything anyway, so decided to do the same and removed that bit. We're probably, though not 100%, thinking the same.
 
7th Jul 25 5:38 PM
roland68
Posts 605
Quote:
Originally posted by KaneW
My observation was wrong then, I thought id found an infinitesimal link with experience seeming the overall ratings of players and matchday previews were showing differently, and the rise of value with fully trained players lol nevermind


As I said before, I've not looked closely at values. But some time ago, my thought was that, ignoring fluctuations due to ratings/ injuries etc, I felt players' values went up as they approached around 25/26 years old and then started to drop after that. Could be completely wrong but as I don't feel it's important, I haven't looked at it closely.

If that's right though, it could explain why your players are increasing in value still, while not improving in quality, they are still young. Experience may also be influencing it as you thought, but I've no idea.
 
7th Jul 25 9:04 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,349
Quote:
Originally posted by roland68
While writing my last reply, I was originally going to suggest Kane look at a particular page. Then I looked at the thread again and saw:



and thought FS doesn't want to give anything anyway, so decided to do the same and removed that bit. We're probably, though not 100%, thinking the same.

Well, we really ought not to give away all the secrets of our success for free, eh, Roland?
 
8th Jul 25 5:49 PM
fedyshen
Posts 89
You two just made me read the whole website!

Found a new page but its not likely what you are chatting about (more of an expansion on what trains what stats).

The hunt continues
 
8th Jul 25 8:19 PM
KaneW
Posts 63
I haven't found the post but I've definately got the hint and how certain training methods have a slight advantage over other methods
 
9th Jul 25 8:32 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,349
It's pretty well hidden- I didn't even realise it was there until I was pointed in the right direction by an experienced older player. I doubt many people have even clicked on the tabs in question before.

Makes a change for me to have the information and you to be guessing in the dark fedyshen
 
9th Jul 25 8:29 PM
fedyshen
Posts 89
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver

Makes a change for me to have the information and you to be guessing in the dark fedyshen


Haha.. I've burned bridges with my Demon ways!
 
9th Jul 25 11:01 PM
Notfair
Posts 47
i rember a club you destroyed i got that club back an going. you av a nerve to be posting anything you turtle weed.
 
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