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James as spy and misregistering is a good shout. The fact I got Slayer back may be the storyteller having a laugh

If I was poisoned and Blue was not the Scarlet Woman then its possible that

FS or Euro was the poisoner
KaneW/Seat1 was the Imp and killed himself last night, passing the power on
Jamesimp was the spy and registered as Town to me anyway

If he's been poisoned, then there are (at least) two evil players still alive

If you're suggesting the info on James is dud then you're implying he was evil too. So all three evil players were alive yesterday.

Therefore bluey wasn't the scarlet woman.

Without communication, the demon wouldn't know who the poisoner would target.

Also no guarantee the 'dud info' would be the exact role he was claiming (although it might be assumed given the ST is supposed to be somewhat targeted in their confusion)

Getting meta again. The ST is, I believe, supposed to use the misinfo mechanic to balance the game.

This info has thrown a vicious cat amongst the pigeons, so certainly isn't helping good.

So it's either true

or evil was close to being finished off and this is another roll of the dice in their favour

This might be pure hopium though

Or I could have been poisoned on Night 3 and the poisoning could remain in place if not used again? I think that's how I understand the role from the rules

FS was very keen for Ricky to share the info he knew and pushed me.hard to reveal my role and "build trust"

It's not beyond the realms of possibilities that FS is/was the poisoner, poisoned me after Bluelightning was executed, James the Scarlet Woman and registered as Town because I am still poisoned. KaneW/Seat1 the Imp which is why the role was kept in the game and he killed himself overnight, passing said power over to the surviving evil player

FS Straight away told everyone we are now paired together, he was protecting me and wanted me to stay in the game. Is this he is a nice person and him being good as well using our powers together we can crack the case. Or was there a sinister plan behind the pairing to gain trust with the group and plot an amazing evil game.


On another note Euro has never made a claim to a role and sits in the background well.

Does anyone else have info from last night?

0 evils pairs sitting together means I think we have a straight choice between Euro and FS

Fair point, I think re-reading the description the poisoner chooses every night but could choose to renew it

Poisoner -

Each night, the storyteller send a player choice to the storyteller, that player will be poisoned until the poisoner dies or the next night's choice is made.


If another nights choice hasn't been made since Night 3 then I would remain poisoned. Great tactic to poison then Undertaker. Only 2 people knew at that point from memory. Ricky and FS

Can I ask as not sure.

Is there only 1 vote of the game we have left now?

If we fail to get the Demon next vote then the evil team win?

Or if we fail to get it correct tonight. Then there is another day and we get another vote? However this is where the importance of the deceased players with there 1 vote comes in as they have used there 1 vote

Euro claimed librarian to me but I didn't ever get the two names.

Would be a good time to mention them, for what good it might do us

5 players alive

PS
Me
Euro
FS
You

One execution and then one night kill. Leaving top 3

Guessing that's how it works?

I believe there are two more executions, at least

5 players alive - 1 execution, 1 murder
3 players alive - 1 execution
2 players alive - game ends

If the demon chose not to murder or the murder didn't happen for some reason (soldier/monk) then it would be extended another day

From the rule thread:

The game goes on until either there is no living Demon (good team wins), or there are only two living players, of which one is the Demon (evil team wins).

No, I think you're neither poisoned nor drunk, Chaz.

You see, the Spy registers to all investigative roles as a town player. If the Spy claims a town role, it would very entirely expected of the storyteller to keep to the Spy's cover story.

However I am now starting to doubt my assertion that weejordy was the Drunk. Because if jamesimp was the Spy, he would have of course got a result of zero on his first night, as the Spy shows as town.

So one of the rest of us is Drunk. It might be me! Although I suspect that if I was and james was the Spy he would have told the Demon to kill me as my investigation would have yielded a false result and caused even more confusion.

But here we are with 5 players left alive:

PS (confirmed Virgin)
Chaz (almost certainly Undertaker, unless he's an incredibly cunning Spy- but still he can't be the Demon if he is)
Euro (claimed... Librarian? Lol)
FS (confirmed by both a "Slayer" and our Frotune Teller as Not Demon- I could still be a minion, but not the Demon)
ricky (who blind claimed Chaz's exact role at the very start of the game, something a Demon could not know)

Hmmmmmm... I wonder who on Earth it could be?

Kane/Seat 1 dying overnight does feel like an Imp suicide to me. I did say before that the Evil team would be raging if Kane was Imp and inactive

Fact he posted after the day phase ended would mean he had a chance to vote to kill before stepping away and why the storyteller was keen to keep seat in the game

It's possible, I did think it would be really stretching it if TG had held onto that role for (?) two murders.

But nobody tried to talk to Kane on day one, surely either minion would have done? They wouldn't have known each other so even with a spy the not-spy would need a bluff role

Yes, I wonder....

If Seat1 death is not an Imp suicide..... why do we think he was killed?

Just want to add a few other things that I didn't have time to earlier today.

Chaz, the reason I went "back on the plan" to claim your Undertaker role with getting killed in mind, was the I am now almost 100% certain we have a Spy in the game and that they've whispered to the Demon at some point. The Demon isn't going to fall for my bluff play in that scenario. I'm genuinely sorry if you feel like I betrayed your confidence, but at that point the town is better served with all the information out in the open including our respective roles and what we know. All the discussions that have happened since then wouldn't have been possible without my role claim and me sharing your info. At some point in the game, the town has to drop all bluffs and be honest with each other so we have all the information available to all the players so they can all make informed decisions.

Second point. This is not a game where you can rely purely on information to root out the bad guy. There's always going to be a loophole or fear of being Drunk or poisoned. What it is, and always has been, is a social deduction game.

Ask yourself if I would really have made a triumphant (and very arrogant) "I've cracked the case" post if I was really evil. There have been so many opportunities for one of you guys to catch me in a lie because of the sheer volume of information I've shared with you all game. Have I lied to you even once?

Then take a look at what Euro has contributed to the town effort- next to nothing. The only investigating he's done all game is announce that either Seat 1 or Han were Drunk. It's very convenient for him to claim a role that only causes more confusion amongst the town. He's only whispered to 1 other person who has made the most haphazard Slayer claim I've seen in my entire life. Do you really think he's telling the truth?

My last and only minor concern now is that I have been played from the start, that ricky was the Spy and you the Demon, and he's fed you what information he needed to all game to point the fingers of logical thinking at james and Euro. But at that point we go back to it being a social deduction game. Both of you have flailed about wildly all game and genuinely give me the impression you have no idea who the bad guy is and you're scrambling around to find him. For this reason, and this reason alone, I have not accused either of you of being evil even though it's theoretically possible given all the information the town has. If you are both evil and have led us all along the whole game, I will take off my Sherlock hat and bow to your extraordinary evil gameplay.

The only sensible execution tonight is Euro and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that PS will agree with me.