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TL;DR don't hate the player, hate the game

You could do most of this in the second division and win more games...

I did find it quite amusing that you replied to me initially rather than HMFC, who actually, y'know, made the thread. I suppose I'm like a red rag to a bull, but that's my combative posting style for you.

The negotiations system was changed at the beginning of this version of IAG, you used to be able to negotiate again 5 days after signing a contract instead of having to wait a full season. You can be absolutely sure that that was exploited to its full extent- and not by me. If the seasonal wage rise option wasn't intended to be used this way, then it would have been made so that a player had to see out all but the last 5 days of his contract before you could negotiate with him again. They did not do so.

It's like saying "I can't believe you're abusing the Rest mechanic in training, players are meant to get fatigued as the season goes on". The Rest option is there on purpose, just like the wage rise option is there for a reason.

The massive penalty for playing players out of position was also introduced in this version of IAG, but I seriously think it's done more harm than good. It was designed to stop managers from playing defenders in goal and still getting good results, but it was pushed so far that it's given rise to this nonsense of being able to get relegated from Division 4 if you play a handful of weak players out of position.

Honestly I'd like to see a change made to the game where you cannot play players out of position unless you have no actual player that can. So you could only stick a striker in goal if you have no fit goalkeepers in your squad.

Would mostly put a stop to this nonsense in quick time, because you'd have to maintain 11 rubbish players if you wanted to get relegated from the lower divisions, rather than the 5 or so Ryan tells us that you have to at the moment, and the downsides of that are significant.

I just think it's a major issues with the future of this game. Think I've had 4 annual subscriptions over the years I've played but wouldn't do so again. Why should managers pay for a game where your hard work isn't rewarded as much as someone exploiting the weaknesses of the game to their advantage whether it's a free or subscribed account. No money coming in means the game is ticking down to being cancelled.

Just applied for a club in Brazil, not even in bottom league and no superstars. I will also not be losing on purpose. I'm coming for you Firesilver'

Scrape that, I'm quitting instead. Won the Super Cup and done the quadruple on easy mode but I will take that.

Best of luck whoever gets this team.

All the best and bye everyone.

First brave thing you've said in the thread...


...only to ruin it 10 minutes later.

What a shame that we'll never get to see how good a manager you could be. You obviously have the skills to succeed at the game if only you'd give yourself a chance to show them fair and square.

Well. He did it.

Interesting thread, one that?s been going on in one form or another since the dawn of IAG. It always strikes me how seriously people take the game, particularly the phrase ?how the game is meant to be played?. Well, I?ve been playing IAG since the first version of the game and I have ALWAYS played it?.badly?.!! One of the draws of the game is there is no definitive ?correct? way to play. You wanna club hop, fine. You wanna throw games, fine. You wanna take advantage of algorithms in contract negotiations, fine. You wanna try to align IAG with actual real life football management, fine. Different playing styles are just another obstacle to success, which keeps it interesting.

Look, I got fed up with it as well, took a very long break when I couldn?t break into the top 50 and watched people taking the easier route rushing past me in the rankings?.came back a few years later with a new plan, and I?m still rubbish!! But?it?s a fun way to spend 20 minutes a day, and my team is progressing.

Imagine spending 2 1/2 years building a club up painstakingly losing on purpose for ages, and then throwing it all away because a few people on a forum don't like what you're doing.

That happened while I was typing out my post. It does kinda look like the ultimate sulk. Fwiw, my personal agenda is to sit one division below the top, avoid promotion until I have made enough cash from the youth academy, buy only young players with high attributes, and when the time is right, push into the Bundesliga with enough financial punch to buy 5 or 6 80+ rated players and build from that. I was accidentally promoted a few seasons back and it absolutely destroyed me, had to start from scratch once again

Maybe he realised that we all now knew anything he would have achieved was not down to hard work but down to hard exploiting the loopholes in the game to his own advantage.

Whether you like it or not (personally, I don?t) it?s still a valid way to play IAG, plenty do it, and it?s pretty successful. I wouldn?t get any satisfaction out of it, which is why I continue to try (and fail) using other methods. It?s pretty feeble to drop out because, as FS said, a few people had a go at him for it. If that was his chosen path, knowing it?s not viewed favourably, he should stick with it and let people complain, as he knew they would. Equally, you play a different way, knowing there are players who take the ?easy? route, don?t get upset with a situation you know exists, get your success despite them.

No don't agree with you at all. Just because of a loophole doesn't mean it's a valid way to play but there doesn't seem to be any will to stop it. Just taking advantage of an oversight in the development of the game doesn't mean it should be okay and acceptable, plenty players playing that way also doesn't make it right. As far as getting upset, your wrong again. Far from being upset, frustrated and annoyed is more like it, but far from upset.

Namutumba City were a strong Prem team constantly finishing in the top 5 for a few seasons in a row so it wasn't a case of the team being newly promoted and struggling and that why the deliberate relegation route was chosen by the manager. He couldn't hack the prem and the toil to keep your head above water and trying to improve each season. It destroyed a good team just for the sake of laziness

Fair enough, I used the wrong word, you?re not upset, sorry for that. I?d still say it?s a non issue though. It?s the same with any game, if someone discovers a cheat code, it?ll be used. To play the game knowing people are doing things a less honourable way is a choice. My choice is not to get frustrated by it but accept it for what it is. If Ryan had stayed with the game, you?d never respect his successes, which I?d agree with, but why would he care? If I ever get any success, 1) it?ll be a miracle, but 2) I would be incredibly proud of myself, partly because I?d have achieved that above those who took the easy route.

Anyway, my main point is, to answer the original post, it?s just a game, and it has its faults. It?s not a farce of a game, that?s a bit much in my opinion.

Reading some of these replies are hilarious. HMFC, you don't half talk some rubbish.

Yes I was in the top division and finishing in the top 5 like you said and could of carried on no problem. It wasn't because I couldn't hack it, it was because of the manager number situation and wanted to get to the top sooner. I did not destroy a good team, I made it better. Destroying a team is against the rules.

I personally think you are jealous of what I achieved as you have done nothing in this game. Even though I was on "easy" mode I still managed to win the super cup, beating the number 1 team in the final. Also won the league cup, beating two 90 rated teams in the finals is not luck, that's called skill I think I also beat you on the way, didn't I

The reason I quit was, not because I was sulking but personal reasons, which I won't go into on here. I was going to stop at the beginning of last season but something kept pulling me back. Then I go into the later rounds of the super cup and said to myself if I win I will quit. Then after achieving that I saw I was near the magic 7500 and wanted to see what staff I would get, and I did. I pressed the resign button that morning before I had seen this thread. I did say I was going to create a new team but after thinking about it I decided against it. I couldn't devote the time required and you can't create a team like that so I decided to carry on with quitting.

Got bored reading that so stopped 1/3 of the way .Giving your mind a treat if you think anyone is jealous of someone who takes the easy option and thinks they are great in doing so, sad really that you think your a great manager. Thanks for the laugh

And you say I talk rubbish when you say "Yes I was in the top division and finishing in the top 5 like you said and could of carried on no problem. It wasn't because I couldn't hack it, it was because of the manager number situation and wanted to get to the top sooner. I did not destroy a good team, I made it better. Destroying a team is against the rules"

So you bought lower rated players, played them out of position, threw games got deliberately relegated and you didn't destroy the team. Ok then

Don't sign up for mafia here, FS eats up these kinds of contradictions for breakfast