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I have an open observation to make.

Taking Firesilver's first post as an example.

I'm not saying we shouldn't make long posts and Firesilver is clearly studying the game analytically, so this isn't a criticism of him or anyone else making them, but equally, we should be perhaps wary of longer posts, as it is easier to deceive with them in my view... it can be seen a muddying the waters with lots of misinformation together.

This is the first thing I asked TG when he PMed me with my role. I probably should have asked publicly so it was clear to everyone. There are 7 good players, that is 5 townsfolk and 2 outsiders, and 2 evil players, a demon and a minion. I think chyper is going to end up joining whichever side is losing at the time he joins- if we catch the minion early he'll probably join as a minionesque role, if we haven't caught the minion by then he'll hopefully join the town.

Don't worry, that was just all of my initial thoughts that have been bottled up for the last several days. I will try to make my points more concise from this point onwards. I do enjoy an analytical style, that's my strength and that will be my value to the team, to help those with a less analytical view.

The posts to be wary of are those that are long and don't contain any information helpful to the other town members, in my opinion.

To be clear, that does not include your post, which is a good one. I will bear it in mind going forwards.

Thanks TG2 and Pleasantsurprise. So much to take in early doors, I completely missed that part about chyperhondriac.

Yeah, 9 players is a whole different setup and slightly harder for good players to detect evil, but that's the hand we are dealt with. I think you're right about how chyperhondriac's role will be determined too.

I think the red herring is an interesting twist to the game. I don't have any opinions about it yet, as I think I need to adsorb what we are dealing with here.

There is a small problem with this, TG. Non-subscribers can't send a PM to multiple recipients. I'll copy and paste my whispers to you, but you're going to have to take it on trust that I'm being honest about it, I'm afraid. Hope that's OK.

Some good posts already about the setup and general strategy, it helps me to get my head around what I'm looking at, although I can't say I have a clear picture yet. At the same time I'm already starting to feel a bit weary of what's going on, especially as some players seem to be wanting to gain trust from the small community we are so early on.

Another thought I have is that nominating/voting will be quite different than it was in the old fashioned mafia games, of which I played a few. As dead players are no longer out of the game, we might even get volunteers queuing for the block? This will be interesting to follow, along with voting patterns.

Oh, didn't realise that!

I?m hoping me being in Pacific time zone doesn?t put me at too much of disadvantage for communication (or for slowing down voting). I?ll try to log in early mornings so I can be aligned with as many people as possible.

I'm happy to copy/paste as easy enough to do. I'm not subscribed.

Everyone's very quiet so far today. Nobody got anything to say or questions to ask? If we spend the whole game not gathering information, it's going to be too easy for the demon to pick us off one by one. We cannot simply rely on our gathered night time information to carry us through because of its general nature and possibility of being tainted.

I know we don't have much to go on yet but a quiet town will only benefit the evil side.

We've not even had a post yet from AndyP or JustSuper and we've heard very little from HanSo7o, PS and Euro. Come on, guys, chip in, the game will be boring if we don't hear from you!

Just you and me mainly. Aside from chyperhondriac, only two have failed to contribute and the others are giving their heads a wobble taking it all in I guess.

Notably, pleasantsurprise is playing a cagey game based on his posts and Euro is a past player also who generally adds quite a fair bit, but hasn't got past the initial hello post, so far. A bit disappointed by that, but don't know the others, so unfair to judge really.

I'm going to go back through the game rules, characters and nominations later. Stuff like this I have to re-read sometimes to fully understand them.

I tried to start a whisper but got ignored!

Can I cancel my request? And whisper to someone who is more active?

I agree that silence is a benefit to the bad guys.

I know this follows a day/night cycle, but I assume this will often be greater than 4 hours as so much of this forum based set-up flows in order and relies on people logging in to see messages.

We're all at a loss to know anything, as no-one has information they seem willing to share here.

I know a little, and what I do know isn't enabling me to divulge anything of interest until something happens.

It seems, some will know something at the start, and others will know or be able to discover things during the night. So, we need a night of something, and results to discuss after that.

All I will give away, is there is a Drunk. Now, it could be me, or at least two others.... or perhaps more. To prove this, I have to wait....

Discuss this if that helps..

Convinced there is a drunk already. I'm intrigued.

After just one Whisper with BerryStraw. Do this imply you both thought you were the same character? (Goes back to the character list to study for the 10th time!).

Ahhh.. or you are the _______! Or BerryStraw has convinced you he is. I'll let others figure out the blank themselves for now.

I must say that I'm a bit puzzled about the claim there should be a drunk, based on what we discussed. I have a different take on the little information that we shared. First some other options should be ruled out, I think.

And indeed silence helps the bad guys, and gives them more time and info to develop a strategy.

No, for not wanting to be vague or mislead in any way... I am claiming the Librarian.

There is nothing anyone can say to know anything different about my claim, unless I am the Drunk and my info isn't right (as I believe).

As for Berrystraw not understanding my claim there IS a drunk - hopefully that clears things up, and our chat wasn't too vague to work things out.

Yes, I'm claiming Town, yes I'm a target. However, no benefit to killing me is gained because my info is out there. Does this help anyone at all...?

Like BB, I'm going to reread all TG's posts (yet again) to try and get a handle on things.

Especially for this whispering lark.

I mean , what are we supposed to say to each other?

*Hello [name] I'm on the good side. Are you?*

*Yes*

*Oh exellent. That's 2 of us then*

*End whisper*

It may become clearer to me on another read.