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16th Jun 25 10:08 PM
BlueBoar
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by HanSo7o
No, for not wanting to be vague or mislead in any way... I am claiming the Librarian.

There is nothing anyone can say to know anything different about my claim, unless I am the Drunk and my info isn't right (as I believe).

As for Berrystraw not understanding my claim there IS a drunk - hopefully that clears things up, and our chat wasn't too vague to work things out.

Yes, I'm claiming Town, yes I'm a target. However, no benefit to killing me is gained because my info is out there. Does this help anyone at all...?


I'm slightly at odds with the highlighted part here. You have claimed Librarian, if true, you have all the information you are ever likely to receive, albeit subject to verifying the authenticity of what you were told, then you state you are a target, but there is no benefit of killing you.

A good guy will always be happy that they have provided information for the team and would be happy to die for the cause, yet you are appearing to say otherwise? What's your train of thought here?
 
16th Jun 25 10:11 PM
fedyshen
Posts 22
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueBoar
In your first post, you referred to seats 3 Berrystraw & 7 Pleasantsurprise. Are these the (at least) two others you refer to or am I misunderstanding you?


I'm confused. I didn't see any reference to these players.
 
16th Jun 25 10:12 PM
BlueBoar
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by Euro_2nd
I see the connection - my question is why offer so early in the game (and by early I mean so early in the first day phase).


I agree that he might be asking us to see him a good, as a cover and have asked a question about that, as I was at odds with something he said.

Sometimes, those who try too hard to be good, can actually be bad, but equally it might just be enthusiasm to participate?
 
16th Jun 25 10:22 PM
BlueBoar
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
I'm confused. I didn't see any reference to these players.


He mentioned positions 3 & 7 on the 1st page of this thread, 3rd post down.

If you look at the circle, that is Berrystraw & pleasantsurprise. TopGun2 mentioned that we should refer to names not numbers for clarification, but I used both for everyone's benefit.
 
16th Jun 25 10:29 PM
fedyshen
Posts 22
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueBoar
He mentioned positions 3 & 7 on the 1st page of this thread, 3rd post down.

If you look at the circle, that is Berrystraw & pleasantsurprise. TopGun2 mentioned that we should refer to names not numbers for clarification, but I used both for everyone's benefit.


Thanks. Missed that!
 
16th Jun 25 10:34 PM
BerryStraw
Posts 221
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueBoar
I agree that he might be asking us to see him a good, as a cover and have asked a question about that, as I was at odds with something he said.

Sometimes, those who try too hard to be good, can actually be bad, but equally it might just be enthusiasm to participate?

It doesn't keep us from nominating him for the block though, as his ability has expired after night 1. If there is an undertaker in play, this might even be beneficial for us to figure out whether he was correct. It would be quite a dangerous strategy for the demon, to say the least.

But before I jump to conclusions, I,d really like to hear what PS has to say about all this.
 
Today 1:53 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,218
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
Especially for this whispering lark.

I mean , what are we supposed to say to each other?

*Hello [name] I'm on the good side. Are you?*

*Yes*

*Oh exellent. That's 2 of us then*

*End whisper*

It may become clearer to me on another read.

I always get a little nervous when PS says he doesn't understand something. I've played far fewer mafia games than him and even I can see the benefits of whispering to another player to build trust or share info between townsfolk or to strategise for the evil team. I think I recall a game when PS was part of the mafia and spent the whole game acting confused about everything when he was in fact pulling all the strings.

Come on, PS, you can do better than this if you're town. That being said, there's a fair chance you are drunk, so perhaps your information would be tainted anyway
 
Today 2:15 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,218
Quote:
Originally posted by BerryStraw
So, if either pleasantsurprise, HanSo7o or myself is the drunk, which for now I'm willing to believe, albeit only because this is the only hard information we have right now, this can probably be tested somehow.

I don't see how I could try such a test given my own role, however, and if HanSo7o is indeed the librarian, he cannot do it himself either. Could you figure something out, pleasant?

Also, I'm pretty curious what information Andy will bring into the game. I suspect Firesilver will bring forward a cunning plan based on that piece of information, if it's possible. So, I'm looking forward to that one, too.

I wouldn't put it past TG to make the drunk think he has information that someone else is drunk, but I think it's more likely that either a) Hanso7o is really the librarian and his information is correct or b) Hanso7o and BerryStraw are the minion and demon and have come up with this strategy in their early whisper to claim safe roles that potentially keeps them out of the limelight (because neither would be expected to provide further information if they're librarian and drunk) for the rest of the game. Either way, I think we have our first pair: I think you're (most likely) either both good, or both evil. This could be helpful if the town has certain powerful night-time roles.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Andy has to whisper. My passion in mafia games is bringing together all the information and possibilities to flush out the evil team. Sometimes I do get it wrong, but I have also been right a few times. Hopefully I can help.
 
Today 2:20 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,218
A final brief point (I don't want to clog up the thread): JustSuper posted in the transfer forum this evening, but has not posted in this thread at all, and ignored a whisper request. So he's lurking but not contributing, and to me that's suspicious.
 
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