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3rd Dec 25 8:11 PM
operation_ivy
Posts 20
A word of caution. I had a 16 year old in my academy. He'd been there since he was 13. I got the contract renewal message yesterday and was told he'd taken all he can from the academy. He was rated 95. I decided to promote him rather than offer a new contract. He's just rejected it and left the club. Last time I promote early even if the coaches say they can do nothing more
 
3rd Dec 25 9:38 PM
Mr_Cantona
Posts 74
Quote:
Originally posted by operation_ivy
A word of caution. I had a 16 year old in my academy. He'd been there since he was 13. I got the contract renewal message yesterday and was told he'd taken all he can from the academy. He was rated 95. I decided to promote him rather than offer a new contract. He's just rejected it and left the club. Last time I promote early even if the coaches say they can do nothing more


I had that same message and promoted the same day, he accepted, was 17 and been in the academy 4 seasons.
 
4th Dec 25 8:50 PM
stripey
Posts 1,220
I must say that I don't pay much attention to the messages. I always read them, but they don't affect my decisions.

Today's special was about a 16-year-old whom I've had in the YA for a couple of seasons. Stats are 81-81-82.

Here's the report:

Dear stripey,

Just a reminder that the contract for youth forward, Vitor Barbosa, is now due for renewal. His contract expires in the next few days.

After supervising his training, our youth coaches report that Vitor Barbosa has started to show some quality, still a long road ahead yet.


I'd suggest he's doing pretty nicely, and should end up in the 90s.
 
5th Dec 25 9:46 PM
Lemmy
Posts 174
First rejection since season 42. Sweeper 95,95,95 with 4 seasons in the academy.
Turned 18 today and just left, no message. Apparently he's got a job with the council on the roads
 
6th Dec 25 9:59 AM
almahaza
Posts 353
Quote:
Originally posted by Lemmy
First rejection since season 42. Sweeper 95,95,95 with 4 seasons in the academy.
Turned 18 today and just left, no message. Apparently he's got a job with the council on the roads
That will keep him busy.
 
6th Dec 25 10:52 AM
stripey
Posts 1,220
Quote:
Originally posted by Lemmy
First rejection since season 42. Sweeper 95,95,95 with 4 seasons in the academy.
Turned 18 today and just left, no message. Apparently he's got a job with the council on the roads
That's very unusual, but how disappointing. Commiserations, Lemmy.
 
7th Dec 25 8:38 PM
HanSo7o
Posts 35
Interestingly, had a 100 youth STR and decided to promote him 2 weeks early before turning 18... maybe I should have waited..

Only got 99 on two fixed, one being Aggression and the other Courage. Not a great result with others between 93-96. Why was he rated 100 in my academy..?
 
7th Dec 25 9:44 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 332
Quote:
Originally posted by HanSo7o
Interestingly, had a 100 youth STR and decided to promote him 2 weeks early before turning 18... maybe I should have waited..

Only got 99 on two fixed, one being Aggression and the other Courage. Not a great result with others between 93-96. Why was he rated 100 in my academy..?

The youth rating is only an indication of promotion attributes, and I don't think a fully 100-rated player has ever existed (in fact I've never seen even one 100-rated attribute). In general (but far from always) a 90+ rated youth will give you a player with 90+ attributes, an 80+ youth = 80+ attributes, etc.

I would just appreciate your new player
 
7th Dec 25 10:26 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,333
I completely agree with chyper. You've just promoted a youth with a lowest FA of 93 and you're not happy?

Just be grateful that he didn't turn out like my last 2 youths that both ended up with lowest FAs more than 10 points lower than their youth ratings, or that he didn't outright reject a senior contract!
 
9th Dec 25 8:12 PM
HanSo7o
Posts 35
Never happy lol... demand more!

A perfect supestar has to exist sometime, surely..
 
9th Dec 25 8:53 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,333
I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure I've promoted at least 3 youths who had a youth academy rating of 100.

Their lowest FAs are 94, 92, and 90. They've all trained up to 88+ with my 6501 level coaches.

Expecting more than lowest FA 93 is unrealistic even with a 100 rated youth. I don't think any youth in the game has come out with a lowest FA that was higher than 95.
 
9th Dec 25 10:28 PM
Andy1970_2nd
Posts 24
Absolute dirth of any good youths being found by my scouts at the moment, in both my times, Lots of empty spaces in the academy, which will mean empty spaces in my squad eventually Been like it for weeks, nothing worth adding coming back at all, and when I get a 40+ rated one, stats are uneven and it's not worth the gamble
I'll keep plugging away, but it's very frustrating at the moment!
 
10th Dec 25 3:41 PM
roland68
Posts 599
Quote:
Originally posted by Andy1970_2nd
Absolute dirth of any good youths being found by my scouts at the moment, in both my times, Lots of empty spaces in the academy, which will mean empty spaces in my squad eventually Been like it for weeks, nothing worth adding coming back at all, and when I get a 40+ rated one, stats are uneven and it's not worth the gamble
I'll keep plugging away, but it's very frustrating at the moment!


Don't panic, just keep searching. I only signed up one youth last season and I've sometimes gone a season or two without adding any youths. But on the other hand, sometimes, two or three come along quite soon after each other.
 
10th Dec 25 4:16 PM
roland68
Posts 599
Quote:
Originally posted by HanSo7o
Interestingly, had a 100 youth STR and decided to promote him 2 weeks early before turning 18... maybe I should have waited..

Only got 99 on two fixed, one being Aggression and the other Courage. Not a great result with others between 93-96. Why was he rated 100 in my academy..?


As Chyper said, youth rating is just an indication. I've had 100 youths promoting with atts as low as 90, 91, 92. I've also had a an 89 rated-youth that reached a 94 rating. This striker of yours could actually be really good. It's a bit of a lottery.

I've had nine 100-rated youths promote and so far only one of them became a star player.

The latest one though, 100-rated Dominguez just promoted last week, he looks great. I'll have to wait and see how good he really gets.
 
10th Dec 25 4:33 PM
roland68
Posts 599
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure I've promoted at least 3 youths who had a youth academy rating of 100.

Their lowest FAs are 94, 92, and 90. They've all trained up to 88+ with my 6501 level coaches.

Expecting more than lowest FA 93 is unrealistic even with a 100 rated youth. I don't think any youth in the game has come out with a lowest FA that was higher than 95.


I agree, but occasionally there are some:

Excluding loyalty, I have:
1. My GK Dominguez promoted last week has a lowest FA of 96.
2. I also signed a GK Belaiz (A Bubba FC youth that I signed via Euro), also has lowest FA of 96.
3. Ogura: recently signed from G Stars (also lowest FA 96)

There are probably more somewhere.

However, Belaiz (the only who is as yet fully trained) only reached 91 and a preview of 90.. So even the best FAs does not guarantee the best players. While at the same time, Norfolk Enchants have a GK rated 94 !! whose lowest FA is 90.
 
10th Dec 25 5:57 PM
Chyperhondria2nd
Posts 79
Quote:
Originally posted by Andy1970_2nd
Absolute dirth of any good youths being found by my scouts at the moment, in both my times, Lots of empty spaces in the academy, which will mean empty spaces in my squad eventually Been like it for weeks, nothing worth adding coming back at all, and when I get a 40+ rated one, stats are uneven and it's not worth the gamble
I'll keep plugging away, but it's very frustrating at the moment!

Not to sound like I'm gloating, but after weeks of rubbish my scouts came back with not one, not two, but three perfectly balanced defenders - one rated 60+ at 14!

My academy is full, but no matter - I've got a 17 year old who's on 93 so I can promote him...and maybe that 85-rated 16 year old can be promoted too, he'll be good for me.

But wait, what's that? Oh yes, I just renewed their contracts so they can't be promoted. And now those three youths are gone forever
 
10th Dec 25 6:51 PM
HanSo7o
Posts 35
Quote:
Originally posted by Chyperhondria2nd
Not to sound like I'm gloating, but after weeks of rubbish my scouts came back with not one, not two, but three perfectly balanced defenders - one rated 60+ at 14!

My academy is full, but no matter - I've got a 17 year old who's on 93 so I can promote him...and maybe that 85-rated 16 year old can be promoted too, he'll be good for me.

But wait, what's that? Oh yes, I just renewed their contracts so they can't be promoted. And now those three youths are gone forever


Would you not feel the game is aware, and therefore balanced to provide or offer things in circumstances that cannot be abused or used?
 
12th Dec 25 8:13 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,333
Hooray!

After just under 2 seasons of stubbornly sitting on a (balanced) rating of 42 in my academy, Alfie Nasazzi has finally improved to 43.

Only issue is that he's turning 16 next week and may end up being the worst youth I've ever produced unless he starts to seriously get his act together.
 
12th Dec 25 9:23 PM
Mr_Cantona
Posts 74
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
Hooray!

After just under 2 seasons of stubbornly sitting on a (balanced) rating of 42 in my academy, Alfie Nasazzi has finally improved to 43.

Only issue is that he's turning 16 next week and may end up being the worst youth I've ever produced unless he starts to seriously get his act together.


I had something similar, youth player that looked really promising, didn't improve much for around 3 seasons and then shot up by around 40 points after turning 17, ended up at 91.
 
13th Dec 25 12:16 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,333
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Cantona
I had something similar, youth player that looked really promising, didn't improve much for around 3 seasons and then shot up by around 40 points after turning 17, ended up at 91.

Why do you think I've persevered with him for 2 seasons of total stagnation?

Of course, he could equally end up rated 45...
 
 
 

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