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A good pair of results this week as another 2 all-90s youths are promoted.

Unfortunately I have misjudged my squad size following my recent record signing and I'm now at maximum squad size. I have a youth up to turn 18 six days from now. He's going to have to walk out the door, isn't he? If so, it'll be lesson learned, but I'm hoping that the squad size limit applies only to new transfer signings and my third youth will successfully promote...

Can't see him not walking. You could always terminate the contract of one of your current squad.

Sadly not worth it, because he's likely to turn out with some FAs in the 80s anyway. He's only rated 92 in the academy and not balanced.

I've listed a couple of players but they won't sell in time to open the squad space, I think. I suppose I can hope that I've recorded his birthday incorrectly...

You're not the first and, with the larger youth academies now, you won't be the last. I made this mistake some seasons ago and on turning 18, the youth left us due to my full squad.

Yesterday, I promoted a youth, J. Compaore. He's turned out a bit better than expected.

After the academy size changed to 12 youths, I didn't find any promising youths for a couple of seasons, so I added a couple of 11yo, 5-rated (5/5/5) youths just out of interest (and maybe a bit of desperation.) Both of those youths' atts very quickly started to diverge but I persisted with them. Compaore ended up rated 91 (98/85/90) with around 3-6 days before his 18th birthday, I promoted him yesterday.

Happily his lowest FA is 92, so for now he's certainly worth keeping.

He's partly made up for some of the recent very disappointing midfield youths that I've promoted.

Nice to know that a 5/5/5 can go all the way!

I have 2 players promoted recently who turned out disappointing, Cengiz Yakupoglu 94/97/94 and Luis Henriques 94/95/96. They were both 95 rated in my academy.

You would certainly expect better, I even had a 90's youth goalie promote with a lowest FA in the 70's.

. That's a shocker!

Both very disappointing. What age were they when they joined your academy?

Hope your next promotion(s) are more positive..

They were 13/14, the worse part is they were stuck on 95 rating for well over a season with no improvements, Oh well.

Following my recent youth promotion of an unbalanced youth rated 91, who promoted with a lowest FA of 92..

Yesterday a 100-rated youth, S. Huber, promoted with two 91 FAs..

Not really surprised as it's not the first time. Just highlighting how unpredictable youth promotions can be.

I'll keep both to see how far each one progresses, which can also be unpredictable.

Sorry newbie question, but what do you mean by the 95/95/95 when you are looking to a youth player.

Same why you said the FA is lower, what is FA also ?

Sorry really stupid questiosn I guess

When they talk about FA, they mean Fixed Attributes on a player,,,,, Fixed Attributes are the main attributes which matter on a player and reflect their potential to be trained up to however good your coaches will be able to grow them

Youth players have three ratings; Physical, Technical and Mental, so saying a youth has 95/95/95 means those three ratings are all 95... I usually use the order P/T/M but maybe others order them differently.

A youth academy player with good ratings suggest that a player might promote to the first-team squad with good FAs (see KaneW's reply above about FAs) but it can be a bit random.


Not a stupid question, we were all newbies here at some time and also didn't know what these figures meant. Don't worry about asking questions, we're (almost) all very friendly here.

Oki pretty clear, thanks both for your answers.
And roland if I take exemples of your Northern Irish player. He was pretty bad with 67/47/49 but very good with FA ?
Am I right ?

Speak for yourself, I think it's a disgrace that valuable forum space is taken up with such basic questions. Shouldn't be allowed




Not sure where you're getting those numbers from - I don't see them in any of roland's recent posts? But yes, those ratings are very low and very unbalanced. A rough rule of thumb is the lowest FA on promotion tends to be in the same ballpark as the lowest youth rating, so you'd expect that youth to promote with a lowest FA in the 40s.

The other rule of thumb is that the maximum overall rating of a player when fully trained is in the ballpark of the lowest FA. So that player would have an expected maximum potential in the 40s - but lower quality coaches would not even be able to achieve that.

Final tip on this - youth ratings increase proportionally, not by absolute value. So a player rated 10/20/30 might improve to 20/40/60 and then 30/60/90.

Ahhh, I understand who you're talking about.

No, the PTM ratings for a youth and PTM ratings of a senior player are different.


A youth academy player's three ratings - Physical, Technical and Mental just give a clue about their future potential..

A senior squad player has many ratings, which also include Physical, Technical and Mental ratings. But, when a youth promotes, all their skill levels are reset and you have train them to increase those ratings. It's the same for those three P/T/M ratings, they start again.

So the player you've been looking at is currently 67/47/49 in my senior squad. But in the youth academy he was probably 9x/9x/9x or maybe even 100.. I bought him so not 100% sure of his final youth rating.

Ok pretty clear again both of your answers thanks.

A bit a mess for my head, but get it I think, so what will be your advice for recruiting youth league ?

Trying to have the younger possible ? (but their overall rating is always very ******).

Or get a older one with a good P/T/M