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New keeper Rodriguez was 93/93/93 at 16 .. promoted with a lowest FA of 80. Ouch

That's very disappointing but you're not alone. Not long ago, I had a 94/94/94 with a lowest of 80 or 81 plus one or more other atts in the 80s. Then also a 95-rated 98/95/92 who also promoted with similar atts.

On the other hand, I also promoted a 93/99/90 midfielder who's reached 93, and some time ago had a 89-rated youth defender reach 94 (sadly he's already retired). So you get good ones and bad ones..

I suspect other managers have similar experiences.

just a word of encouragement to those that have a decent looking youth that doesn't appear to be fulfilling his promise. I've a goalkeeper who turned 17 3 weeks ago and was only rated 69. He joined the academy aged 14 and was at the time rated 54. The first year he increased to 55. The second year he increased to 69. The last 3 weeks he's increased to 75, 81 and then this week to 94.

Patience can be a virtue

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Those results are par for the course mate, ask Ben, he wont be getting any different results to yours and in the washing machine of BS returns if you stick with it then eventually you will get 2 or 3 a season and the academy will fill up, they're like buses.

Granted it wont be those exact returns but over the course of 2 or 3 seasons it evens itself out, as with everything in this game it is all about patience, its more than just a game apparently.

Like i keep saying, the hints and tips are out there but if you keep ignoring them and thinking your way is correct then keep getting the same poor results. Remind me, what is the defintion of madness...

Last update for me i let go an all 73 rated 17 year old. His birthday was 3 weeks time, worth the gamble, m'eh, maybe but he was taking up the remaining space in my YA and my 8 scouts had finally decided to pick up an all 65 rated 13 year old which was the first result from them in over a season so very much a no brainer but even if they hadnt he was going.

He had been in my YA for 4 seasons and improves 14 points in that time.

These are the choices really that make or break teams and prevent some from moving forwards as these game made easy youths were sent to help those crying about how their teams were stuck in a rut and instant results werent happening even though that had never been the route to any long term success.

More than is normal so i will take that

Indeed there has but that is down to several things of which i dare say most dont even realise why its happened even those its happening to which is kind of my point FS in several of my posts not just in here.

Its one thing having the tools to build a wall, its another building it and yet another for the wall to remain upright in years to come.

Lets also not forget the reason why a lot of clubs have increased substantially and it isnt from their own hard work, its primarily down to these game made easy youths everyone ought to be coming across.

Let's also not forget the small matter of of how very few actual managers the game has left, the total is 283 as it stands.

And also lets not forget the small matter of Kevin resigning from cheaters so in the small part as his interest dwindled there thats another 20 points you lot over in Brazil have gained and another however many points for beating them has gained you all.

ALL the hints and tips of getting over 7500 are out there and yet some / most still bury their heads in the sand and refuse to see what is staring back at them. The idea of keeping 100 million and not buying 90 plus rated players to me is crazy and whoever said this is the right thing to do needs to be dragged out into the market place and put in stocks for all to see.

Now its time for me to partially agree with you

Lets break this down some more. Lets rightly or wrongly assume there are very few managers playing this game ( the numbers dont lie ) that actually get the game and even aspire to get to the top as is with many, many games outside of this one. Even C O D or A C or Fortnite etc.

Some play for the enjoyment of it, realise they can only get so far, leave and go get another game to play or stick to FIFA etc.

I am going to go out on a limb here and whilst it may come across as arrogant, i dont intend it to be as such with what i am about to say especially as i keep repeating myself in saying all of the information required to be a top 7500 is out there, people just need to stop being lazy and look for it and realise what information is helpful and what isnt.

Teams say 21 to 50 are currently never going to get to 7500, there i said it. Why? Because they are blinkered, blind, deaf, call it what you like and take bad advice as gospel and it really is the blind leading the blind it would appear.

Lets take this thread, youth academy news.

How many people refuse to only take in either totally even fixed youths or as close to it and take in literally anything? I will answer for you, the majority and that is people that arent contributors to this thread as we all see in our own league forums the amount of youth players that are promoted daily that arent even 50 rated players and outside of the 'top' managers and not idiots as you refer to them as, there are very few players even 80 plus youths.

Perhaps that is another reason, maybe a lot of managers that have come, gone or present where English isnt their first language and therefore hints and tips are irrelevant

I for one am genuinely pleased that the amount of managers that used to message me asking for help has dwindled because Kevin isnt the only 'top' manager who is losing to the will to live...

As the great philosophers Mulder and Scully once said, the truth is out there

I hate to say it, press the button then.

This game is not 100% yes in anything and there is normally always a no just around the corner to upper cut you in the nuts just when you think you have the answer to things.

There is always a variable that shocks you or says no no matter how many times you ask the game a question. Imagine a game where that would be the case, now that would be boring right?

It isnt just the YA where we think we know the answers ( although as always we can do things to get to say 99% yes ) it is also with games and team selections, why dowe win one day but not the next etc? I genuinely wish i knew as would most right?

The lower down the fixed brackets you go, the more risk you get with using them because who is to say that to get say a 70 rated player the fixed werent 60 / 70 / 80 therefore a 60 player. There are duds at every level, even supposed unicorns

You get my drift right?

There are several managers paying 50 million plus and still several paying 45 million plus, even today so that argument is invalid and sounds to me like you are trying to convince yourself you are correct when 100% you are not.

Besides, my point was more that if you sold for even 40 million which happens 99% of the time then you can always, always buy minimum 2, if not 3 and if you take a bet then you could often get 4 and that is also 100% fact

Yes, you will still have to train them the same length of time, thats a no brainer and daft point isnt it?

My point was more that not just you, because as you say there are other managers doing the same, would be better off selling the unicorn as 3 or 4 for the price of 1 is better as it adds squad depth too right? Imagine the scenario where your 1 unicorn gets injured every season or turns out to be a dud, unlikely but possible.

Besides, 1 player doesnt make a team and it all stems back to the levels and type of youth that is promoted in the first place and the basics are out there.

and you're not the only one either mate.

Again, the answers are out there but people have to look otherwise theyre walking blind and wrongly assuming what they are doing will one day take them to the other side of the river where unfortunately several drown

the answers are out there, its no hidden agenda or cult like rules in place. People are just lazy and expect everything handed on a plate and that includes 7500 membership.

Yes, exactly that and from the current transfer market they are not costing 20 million.

Besides, it makes no difference if you train 1 player for 3 seasons (it might actually be more with your current staff though) or you train 3 players for 3 seasons. At least at the end of these 3 seasons, you have 3 'trained' players instead of one and from memory it might only be 2 or 3 difference in rating between the 80s and 90s players anyway.

If you want to pay 25 million, i have a second team full of them so just knock on my door mate!

People are not paying 25 million or those that are they are few and far between

And i agree, you're not the only person in your boat, there are loads of others doing it wrong aswell!

There are levels although i think you are now over 5500 and people would do well to remember that. You are not going to compete with 6500 teams let alone 7500 teams but you can control your team.

My example of flipping stands and which method do you think stands you better in reaching 6500, keeping a team of 60s and 70s fixed players or 3 80s each time? Its rhetorical of course because my example still stands as well. 3 unicorns sold, 150 million in the bank, minimum of 8 players at 15 million in their place. 30 million left, player sales for 8 players lets say 10 million a piece so another 80 million so 110 left. Guess what, another 6 players at 15 million with 20 left to have a xmas party or 3 for the club and its employees and before you know it you have a squad of 14 players that are 80s fixed plus whatever 80s players you keep from YA.

It really isnt rocket science, any of it.

Get more scouts.

Be patient

Be patient

Be patient

Be patient and within 5 seasons you are over 6500 level and soaring towards 7500 which is another ball game but similar applies. Why over complicate things? It baffles me it really does when people consistently do though.

Even FS cant disagree with this although he can as FS is still after 7500 20 seasons after game made easy youths came into play and before that was working towards 6500 after another 20 seasons and Euro and CH i think it was even beat them there

Actually, you're confusing yourself here, 2 for 1 not a great return when at your level i would take 2 for 1 all day long knowing what the trade off CR wise is plus it is more like minimum 3 for 1.

Then you say you dont want unicorn players just 70 / 80 youths to keep your team going when i have answered that for you havent i?

Plus monthly, flipping heck, you'll be lucky to get 2 per season although it is very, very much possible, just listen for goodness sake

Peace out as the other half is absolutely killing me not paying attention to them and wasting my time in their opinion helping a stranger who in their words wont listen.

Happy New Year everybody, even you FS as you know you love me really, you're just playing hard to get!

Holy decuple post, Batman


Well then, I'm going to take great pleasure in proving you wrong.


Sadly I only got to play them once in their dilapidated state at home last season, and today we're facing them back at a preview score of 89 and zero fatigue, and my top keeper is out injured still, so I'd be happy with a draw honestly. The teams around me have benefitted by playing them earlier in the season though


I wouldn't disagree with you at all. Selling a 90s FA youth to power your club growth is a great strategy at a certain point in your club's journey. I seem to remember selling one to you for 55M, that bought me my record signing and 2 big stadium stands with change to spare so cheers for that

Not got the foggiest what you're on about with euro and CH though, and let me go at my own pace to get 7501 please and thank you? I'm trying to do it in one of the most competitive divisions in the game

Andy you should have 8 scouts at your level. You'll then get twice as many returns but only choose ones with fairly balanced stats, they don't have to be perfect but not too different.
If you are patient and persistent you will get what you want. Most of the time the youths will be rubbish but occasionally a gem will appear.

Oh yes, I might also add that I haven't even been at my club for 20 seasons yet, so maybe look a little closer next time

Cheers Lemmy, I'll give it a go, but it just feels like double the scouts will come back with double the duds
NSSO keeps saying the info is out there to get to 7501, and then says not many new managers have actually made it, which is weird if the info is out there, then surely everyone would get there?

Not necessarily...even if all ratings were reset and everyone was permanently given fully trained 90+ players and 100M in the bank, there would still be a de facto limit on the number of teams reaching 7501

Quite a harsh limit, too. Speaking as someone that's still 250 points short after almost maxing out everything possible, you still need to win the vast majority of your matches to get over the line. Only the top 3-4 clubs of the top division (more or less) have a realistic chance of reaching 7501.

Andy, that would only be true if there were absolutely no chance of netting a unicorn youth. If one of those popped up every 100 searches, then with two scouts it would take you fifty missions, but with five scouts it would take you only twenty.

I get used to binning the lot and sending my scouts out again straight away, and just once in a while they come back with something worthwhile. It needs to be that way, otherwise everybody would be able to get all-90s squads in short time.