| Quote: Originally posted by FiresilverWhy do you think I've persevered with him for 2 seasons of total stagnation?
Of course, he could equally end up rated 45... 
Don't make me tap the sign
Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriacMy GK Sharaf was rated 38 when he turned 17, and check him out  | |
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| You've got full academies?!? I've never had that, and they are half empty at the moment with no light at the end of the tunnel  I also had a 39 rated 13 yo, looked really promising and moved up 8 points in 3 seasons, I promoted and sold him for 200k, making a loss.
The youth system is the only way to keep your team going and try and make money on surplus youths you dont need. I'm down to 7 in one with one about to promote, so 6 none of which are rated above 75, and therefore likely to improve my team.
Not a problem, if it's the same for everybody?!? | |
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| Also I've noticed a few promoted youths recently in my 2nd team coming thru with 70s and 80s as they were 75+ in the academy with balanced stats, and yet I'm struggling to train them up beyond 60 when my coaches haven't changed, equally puzzling and frustrating.  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andy1970You've got full academies?!? I've never had that, and they are half empty at the moment with no light at the end of the tunnel  I also had a 39 rated 13 yo, looked really promising and moved up 8 points in 3 seasons, I promoted and sold him for 200k, making a loss.
The youth system is the only way to keep your team going and try and make money on surplus youths you dont need. I'm down to 7 in one with one about to promote, so 6 none of which are rated above 75, and therefore likely to improve my team.
Not a problem, if it's the same for everybody?!?
How many scouts do you have?
Also you want to keep youths in the academy until they reach 18 as it's quite common for them to puit on a lot of points right at the end. | |
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| My hole Player just got to 100 in the youth academy.
17 years old with 39 days left on contract.
There is no option to promote? Will he auto-promote tonight? Or is it because the payer has to have "been in his current contract in your academy for at least 21 days"
The last one seems like an option but I have a 16 year old with 45 days left that I could promote.
Maybe I waited to the final day to renew, thus 57 day - 21 days = 36 days remaining when the promote button shows up --- And for the 16 year old maybe I renewed with 10 days left, thus 66 days - 21 days = 45 days - which is why the promote button shows up?
Maybe I just figured this out but any other insight would be appreciated.
Otherwise - Very happy to sell this likely gem. I hope the (lovely) Random Generator is in the Christmas Spirit!  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by fedyshen_2nd
Maybe I waited to the final day to renew, thus 57 day - 21 days = 36 days remaining when the promote button shows up --- And for the 16 year old maybe I renewed with 10 days left, thus 66 days - 21 days = 45 days - which is why the promote button shows up?
I think that's exactly what's going on. Enjoy him when he comes  | |
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| Another gem of a message, this time on a 14-year-old:
Dear stripey_2nd,
Just a reminder that the contract for youth forward, Jhoan Sebastian Rojas, is now due for renewal. His contract expires in the next few days.
After supervising his training, our youth coaches report that Jhoan Sebastian Rojas has taken everything he can from the academy. He is ready to move on.
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| Quote: Originally posted by stripey_2ndAnother gem of a message, this time on a 14-year-old:
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Already reached 100 has he  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by roland68Already reached 100 has he 
i think it was more to do with the age than rating mate because even if he is 40 or 100 theres nothing he can do about it as they cant promote until hes 16 at the earliest | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andy1970Also I've noticed a few promoted youths recently in my 2nd team coming thru with 70s and 80s as they were 75+ in the academy with balanced stats, and yet I'm struggling to train them up beyond 60 when my coaches haven't changed, equally puzzling and frustrating. 
Not every YA is 100% guaranteed, they could be duds.
Besides, what's your second team rating staff, without looking i guess they're no better than your 5500 rated staff with your first team in which case with 4500 staff you'll be lucky to get that kind of rating player ( 70 ) to maybe 60 tops | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andy1970 I also had a 39 rated 13 yo, looked really promising and moved up 8 points in 3 seasons, I promoted and sold him for 200k, making a loss.
Yup, we've all had one of those cracking equal fixed 13 year olds that don't increase to even 70 plus let alone unicorn level, ##it happens | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andy1970 The youth system is the only way to keep your team going and try and make money on surplus youths you dont need
No it isn't the only way to make money and most importantly improve a team.
Let's take your FBK Goung and DMF Lingane.
They both came through your YA and you chose to keep them despite your staff being 'poor' and there being next to no benefit or rather you could've gained greater benefit in selling them as you could've got say 50 million each which is obviously 100 million.
There's loads of players been out there to buy trained or untrained and 80s players are rarely selling for 20, more like 15 and i am seeing untrained 80s going for 12 level so in theory you could've bought minimum 5 fully trained 80s players at least for those 2 players and if we picked the right players more like 6 to 8 players that were 80s fixed and untrained which is better than i guess 85% of your current squad?
Only way to make money / improve your squad and rating etc, no.
These game made easy youth changes introduced some what, 15 plus seasons ago was what a lot of us thought / hoped would be one of the final bits of tinkering before a reset was going to happen but alas not.
All it did was allow managers that couldn't run a club before, think they can afterwards as the reward of unicorns for no effort at all that they were unable to buy previously was massive and deadly in almost equal measures.
Literally all the hints and tips on how to run / produce 'top' teams are out there both in stickied threads and from looking at other clubs.
Apologies if this is taken personally as it isnt meant to be as such, just a general observation and seemingly long term gripe the last 3 paragraphs. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by roland68Already reached 100 has he 
He's 75/80/84, so I am (still) hoping that he'd make a mid 80s player - after all he's got another three seasons in which to improve. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by NotSoSpecialOne i think it was more to do with the age than rating mate because even if he is 40 or 100 theres nothing he can do about it as they cant promote until hes 16 at the earliest
Correct. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by NotSoSpecialOne i think it was more to do with the age than rating mate because even if he is 40 or 100 theres nothing he can do about it as they cant promote until hes 16 at the earliest
Of course, that was pretty clear. It was just my roundabout way of asking what rating he had reached. I was hoping for Stripey's sake that the youth had reached, at least, a decent level. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by NotSoSpecialOne All it did was allow managers that couldn't run a club before, think they can afterwards as the reward of unicorns for no effort at all that they were unable to buy previously was massive and deadly in almost equal measures.
Literally all the hints and tips on how to run / produce 'top' teams are out there both in stickied threads and from looking at other clubs.
I only agree with this to an extent, NSSO. There has undoubtedly been a general upwards trend in club ratings recently, but then that has always been the case since the game started. It's easier to build a club than it was in the past, and yet it's still as difficult as it has ever been to break into the top tier of clubs.
If you look at the top 20- the clubs that have reached the holy grail of 7501 club rating- there are comparatively few "newcomers" there. Most have been there for a long period of time. It's not like any idiot can walk into a club and turn them into a top 20 side with a snap of their fingers.
What I think it has definitely done is brought the competition closer. There are now 9 teams in Brazil's Serie A that can field a preview score above 83 points and while Peregrinos are still dominating the League, we've had 4 different winners of our League Cup in the past 6 seasons, after 45 seasons of it only being won by 2 clubs. I think that's a good thing and it's keeping the top managers on their toes and hopefully keeping the game interesting and challenging for you all. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lemmy How many scouts do you have?
Also you want to keep youths in the academy until they reach 18 as it's quite common for them to puit on a lot of points right at the end.
4, they just came back with 9 players rated 5-30, and the one rated 30 had stats of 9/38/43 so not even even!
Someone who has moved 8 points in 3 seasons, I am not spending any more money on him keeping him there until 18. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by NotSoSpecialOne
Not every YA is 100% guaranteed, they could be duds.
Besides, what's your second team rating staff, without looking i guess they're no better than your 5500 rated staff with your first team in which case with 4500 staff you'll be lucky to get that kind of rating player ( 70 ) to maybe 60 tops
Strange then that they've trained up other squad players to 70+ in the past!?!
So you're saying someone rated 75+ in the YA who comes thru with 70s and 80s fa could be a dud who will not train beyond 60? I might as well quit now then as I'm going to run out of players very soon if that is the case! | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by NotSoSpecialOne
No it isn't the only way to make money and most importantly improve a team.
Let's take your FBK Goung and DMF Lingane.
They both came through your YA and you chose to keep them despite your staff being 'poor' and there being next to no benefit or rather you could've gained greater benefit in selling them as you could've got say 50 million each which is obviously 100 million.
There's loads of players been out there to buy trained or untrained and 80s players are rarely selling for 20, more like 15 and i am seeing untrained 80s going for 12 level so in theory you could've bought minimum 5 fully trained 80s players at least for those 2 players and if we picked the right players more like 6 to 8 players that were 80s fixed and untrained which is better than i guess 85% of your current squad?
Only way to make money / improve your squad and rating etc, no.
These game made easy youth changes introduced some what, 15 plus seasons ago was what a lot of us thought / hoped would be one of the final bits of tinkering before a reset was going to happen but alas not.
All it did was allow managers that couldn't run a club before, think they can afterwards as the reward of unicorns for no effort at all that they were unable to buy previously was massive and deadly in almost equal measures.
Literally all the hints and tips on how to run / produce 'top' teams are out there both in stickied threads and from looking at other clubs.
Apologies if this is taken personally as it isnt meant to be as such, just a general observation and seemingly long term gripe the last 3 paragraphs.
I'm sorry. no-one buys them for 50m any more. I kept them as I knew I could train them up and they would make great players in my team. Ideally I want to have a team of promoted youths selling the occasional one to then buy a full trained gk and striker above 80. So you're telling me to sell untrained players for 50m and buy untrained players for 20m, I've still got to train them up whatever, so you're looking at 3 seasons before you can use them? Plus I'm not the only manager trying to do that if that is the way to a successful side, therefore they'd more than likely go for 25m, meaning I get 2 for 1, not a great return. I dont want unicorn players, I just want a couple of potentially good youths 70s/80s (monthly) who will improve or keep my team going. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andy1970 I'm sorry. no-one buys them for 50m any more. I kept them as I knew I could train them up and they would make great players in my team. Ideally I want to have a team of promoted youths selling the occasional one to then buy a full trained gk and striker above 80. So you're telling me to sell untrained players for 50m and buy untrained players for 20m, I've still got to train them up whatever, so you're looking at 3 seasons before you can use them? Plus I'm not the only manager trying to do that if that is the way to a successful side, therefore they'd more than likely go for 25m, meaning I get 2 for 1, not a great return. I dont want unicorn players, I just want a couple of potentially good youths 70s/80s (monthly) who will improve or keep my team going.
I sold one for 50m+ last season. | |
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