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TG, can you confirm that the gunslinger is not obliged to use his ability after every first vote?

If so, Cypher's choice was wether to shoot PS or not, and he clearly chose to go through with it.

With the undertaker being claimed by the night two death, I guess we have to go on a bit of chance, a bit of gut feeling and a bit of trust from here. No way to get certainty that I can think of.

My theory still is that PS was the drunk and his info was skewed. I'm pretty sure about it, actually, although I could be completely wrong. Still, it makes me believe that one of Andy or FS or maybe even both are evil. So, I'm fine with the current situation with both Andy and FS nominated.

At the same time I wonder how much everyone has been sharing amongst each other, or if we're facing a spy here.

How to progress from here? Not sure if we can do more than we do. Theories, chance, gut feeling and a bit of trust - if that's possible.

For some reason I really like that image. Someone in a church somewhere overseas pondering whether BS is the demon or not

As PS said, the ability says they 'may' choose a player, thus it's optional, not required

As with yesterday, I'm going to close out the day chat whilst we wait for the nomination votes to finish going through. You can still nominate or call for exile if you wish but I'm hoping to get into the night phase today.

... continuing to night 3.

I'll be in touch for night choices and info etc. but with FS potentially awol until Wednesday and multiple people indicating that maybe a break from the game wouldn't be a bad thing, I'll drag this night out for a little while.

In the meantime, enjoy a peaceful, dreamy, sleep in our peaceful town of Ravenswood Bluff.

Day 3 will start this evening . Had intended it to be last night but I ended up unavailable.

Day 3 begins with the town, fresh after a long, only slightly restless, sleep, gathering in the town square to find out what damage the Demon had done overnight. To some surprise they discover no new body handing from the clocktower. Nobody died in the night

Quick recap for anyone with short memories... a Demon killed myself and Euro so far; the town has executed HanSo7o and AndyP whilst the Travelling Gunslinger shot pleasantsurprise, leaving 5 Players and 1 Traveller alive.


A word of caution, today might be your last day. The traveller doesn't count towards win conditions so with 5 players alive, if the gunslinger shoots and the town executes and the Demon survives both, then you'll go into the night phase with 3 players. You might then awake with only 2, thus finding that Good has lost.

Whisper requests are open. Please note that each day gets shorter as the game progresses so don't expect it to be too long before I open nominations.

An interesting development, and one that leads me to believe that chyper is good. Because the strategy I had come up with for the final day involved there only being 4 players left, chyper shooting me, and then we get the demon.

This does mean we have a bit more leeway, and while I was waiting to go on holiday on Monday morning, I decided to do some digging.

One of the main advantages a town can have is kill confirmations- knowing whether the player you lynched was bad or good, and seeing how they've posted all game. In the absence of this, the town has only one other main advantage: voting patterns. Voting is not anonymous so we know who has voted for whom.

So I was skimming through the voting thread, totting up who of the alive players had voted for whom and seeking out patterns... when I came across a very interesting post that I had missed due to work fatigue. But on closer inspection...

(i'm going to split this post up to make it easier to read for BB )

Now where does sound familiar from, I was asking myself?


I have to give credit to PS here- I would never have been looking this closely at fedyshen if PS hadn't called him out as coaching AndyP.

So go on then, fedyshen. Why were you implying that you had one of three roles that we know aren't in the game, hmm?

But hold on, FS, I hear you cry. We do have a Monk in the game! Super has claimed Monk!

This is where I have the advantage- I know Super isn't the Monk. He whispered me to tell me he was the Saint (this is our missing outsider role). He was faking Monk to goad the Demon into killing him. It didn't work because of how clumsily he claimed it, and also because the demon knows there's no monk in the game already.

Fedyshen knew it was then safe to claim Monk, and he can now add credence to his claim because there was conveniently no kill tonight, making him "above suspicion".

But sadly for him, he didn't count on the Fortune Teller.

I had to give TG 2 names. The idea is that you don't know which one it is. So naturally, I chose the names fedyshen... and Firesilver.

I was told the Yes, one of them is the demon.

Fedyshen could be my red herring. I am almost certain that TG set up the game for Super to live to the end as the Saint AND that he was my red herring. It would have been a pure 50-50 as to which one of them to choose. I would still have been uncertain now if it hadn't been for fedyshen's role claiming mistake above.

We can play it safe now, if you like. You can vote me off tonight to confirm that I'm not leading you all astray. Once the game still doesn't end, we kill fedyshen tomorrow, and we win.

I also think AndyP was the spy (unless BlueBoar is, but PS generally knows what he's talking about). But do you know who whispered to both Andy and BlueBoar on Day 1?

That's right- fedyshen.

How unlucky for the demon to kill our undertaker on Night 2, eh? Unless the demon knew exactly who to kill already because he was told exactly who had which role.

Fedyshen knew Euro was the Undertaker. He also was told that Super was his ace in the hole- the spy told him that he was both the Saint and my red herring. Initially he put his hand up for Super... but then changed his mind and put it back down again after whispering to AndyP.

I have more, but I have to go and put my son to bed. Someone else (probably PS) can put the rest together from here anyway.

I can confirm i did whisper this to FS. Thought i might as well trust him since the odds would suggest he is Townie rather than not. Thought it was possible FedyShen was trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

My long reply I draft before reading the above accusations.

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Last night I protected FS as that is what the forum suggested I do. Looks like it has worked? Or the Demon is toying with us.

Firesilver is Fortune Teller - Could HanSo7o or BerryStraw be his Red Herring? SO is BerryStraw Evil? FS night 1 result = Not Demon (PS and BB), Night 2 BS or JS = Demon. So if he is telling the truth, BB should be Town (unless FS was poisoned night 1). BS or JS could be Demon or his red herring (or he could have been poisoned). This means FS should inquire about Me and a repeat last night. Very interesting. Even more interesting if we haven't killed the Poisoner (if there was one).

BlueBoar told me in a Whisper he would try to get Evil to kill him on Night 2 or 3, however he has done nothing to try to get killed, and not revelaed his role publicly. He told me his role as I was able to narrow it down from his '3 options' he gave me'. This is now ringing alarm bells.

BB had a feeling BS or JS was evil, with a slight lean to BS over JS (This was after he whispered with FS on day 2, also whispered with FS on Day 1). FS told BB he investigated BB and PS and got not evil on BB (but he was actually a FortuneTeller). If FS got 'not evil on 2 players night one this could make sense, and sounds like he got evil on night 2 for PS and ___... so this could fit the bluff. I Whispered to BB on Day 2 that I thought FS was actually the Fortune Teller before his bluff fell apart and he confirmed this on the forum.

Euro was executed Night 1 after he nominated BS...

I allegedly told AndyP how to play. I would say I read the player info and pushed him to tell us as much as possible as knowing the type of Minion we were up against was important. Especially since we never pushed FS on this (he bluffed investigator) and this could have ended his bluff earlier.

PS (Empath) said...Empath doesn't have a red herring, but on the small chance we have a Recluse this could be a problem. And as we have discussed lots, he could have been drunk or poisoned.

I've seen lots of talk about Poisoning lasting 2 nights, but I don't think that is true and I don't think it effects the permutations we have discussed, but I can't be sure.

BS and I discussed AndyP not voting off HanSo7o... Obviously they were both evil or the game would have ended, Anything to learn here? Maybe a Minion who preferred HanSo7o alive over BS? But his vote also left HanSo7o able to make I tie if he decided to (obviously vote order mattered too). I questioned AndyP on this on the forum at the request of BS as he wanted to be less aggressive than he was on day 1 which almost let to his lynching.

If AndyP was the Demon we may have had a Scarlett Woman take over (but this would mean no one has been poisoned...

If you read the game notes the Saint is the ultimate bluff (for the Demon). What makes you believe JustSuper more than me. Obviously we can't have a Monk and a Saint (unless there was no drunk [doubtful]).

If there is a Spy you are proposing that there have been no poisonings. So all of the confusing information has come from a Drunk and a Red Herring (no recluse). Although (against my argument we have a poisoner) the Spy can mis-register to the empath.

JustSuper, barely spoke on night one. BS spoke lots and nearly got killed for it! I added content at a mid-range all game and I get accused of telling Imps how to play the game.

I'm intrigued to get BB and BS's thought on here.

I don't have a lot of time as working until midnight.

I am the Ravenkeeper. In my whispers with Fedyshen, we each revealed we were one of 3 roles. He eventually claimed he was Monk, I eventually claimed Ravenkeeper. He suggested soldier & recluse were his others. I think I said virgin (lol) and butler.

In all honesty, real life kept me off the pace with the game, so my contributions have been largely hit and miss, so the hiatus was beneficial to me... whoever suggested it, thanks!

If Fedyshen is the demon, which seems very likely, I suspect I would be the last person he'd want dead. Maybe I should have declined the whisper, but what's done is done.

So Fedyshen is either the Demon or the Monk...

Firesilver is either a Fortune Teller or Demon

JustSuper is either Monk or Saint....

I cannot vote regardless of the nominations, I opted for Firesilver. I still believe what I do, no matter what is being said. It's a tough game to out anyone, and believe the next too. I do know or know of someone yet to state their role, and their role itself. I can't discuss this easily, but it is a role not yet claimed. Had it been, I'd be seeking answers too.

Why wasn't anyone killed through the night?
A fail or the Demon chose someone already dead. Can only be those two options, unless he simply didn't choose anyone. Why...? Who gains from not killing anyone...?

I do appreciate the well place Bold. Credit where credit is due.

Which roles do know aren't in the game. I have tried to get the chat to work with me and narrow down the list all game and know one has even responded to my messages.

The game rules suggested we go with a top 3 early on, which is what I did. From my day 1 whispers if you want to confirm with BB and AndyP (day 2 with BS)