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Or Demon. Super could still be the Demon, whisper claiming Saint to me, and then claiming Monk to everyone else. The problem is we simply can't prove Super one way or the other. This is why we ultimately have to fall back on social deduction, and I just cannot see Super pulling the wool over our eyes so cleverly. We also still don't have a second claimed outsider- if we do have another outisder, they have to claim right now so we can cross examine Super.

The evidence against fedyshen is too strong to ignore, in my view, and as I've said right from the beginning of Day 2, I'm happy to die for the town so long as it wins us the game. Kill me today and kill fedyshen tomorrow. If Super is actually the Demon... well played to him.


Silly to waste your last vote on something that was never going to carry. You're out of the game. Almost as bad a play as chyper shooting PS. The town has done its best to lose this game, but evil made a mistake too.


Fedyshen does. He can claim that he's the Monk, protected me, and the demon tried to kill me.

Except it just doesn't make sense. Why would the Demon kill the person most likely to be voted off today anyway because they're super suspicious? Better to let the town do it and go after another person. Especially as I have already used up all the information I'm going to get: the Demon is one of Berry, Super, fedyshen or me.

I cannot believe there's a poisoner in the game. TG put the role in the list so we'd all be scared of it, and then gave the evil team a Spy so they'd have perfect information on the game state and could manipulate the night kills and voting as they wished. It's the only explanation for our Undertaker to be killed on Night 2, apart from random chance. Euro had not made himself a threat at that point.

1. HanSo7o - claimed Librarian
2. JustSuper - claimed Saint
3. BerryStraw - not claimed
4. chyperhondriac - Gunslinger
5. BlueBoar - claimed Ravenskeeper
6. AndyP - claimed Investigator, probable minion
7. pleasantsurprise - claimed Empath
8. Firesilver - claimed Fortune Teller
9. fedyshen - claimed Monk
10. Euro - claimed Undertaker

So we are just waiting for Berry's claim. If he is not claiming an outsider role, I think we trust Super's Saint claim.

I think Berry is the Mayor, but it's just a guess.

I would be very surprised if fedyshen is my red herring and Berry or Super is the real Demon, but I suppose it's possible.

I am almost convinced that I am not poisoned, now.

Your top 3 made it easy for me to figure out who you were! Or a bluff that was so innocently played that I fell for it.

Yes he is... That is what he told me. I tried to wait for him to say he was on his own... but this is what he told me.

This does defend JustSuper though. As it would be him and the drunk as the Outsiders.

So its me, Firesilver, BB or BS as Demon.

I protected you. But it doesn't mean the Demon tried to kill you. The demon may expect there is a Mayor and thus not want town to drop too fast. The Demon can re-kill a player to waste a night and throw people off the scent. There is also a tiny chance we have a Soldier. Highly unlikely though.

If the town wants to kill me, that is fine. I'm not that important anymore. But I'm increasingly scared of BS and BB. Silence (or near silence) has always helped BB and BS learned on day 1 to say less.

If we think we have killed the Minion, then no one is poisoned now. I'm not sure why everyone thought poisonings lasted 2 nights.

The Mayor told the Demon who he was


It's not BlueBoar. I got a Not Demon read on him. If I'm lying, then I'm the Demon, which means he can't be. BlueBoar may be the minion still (although I agree with PS that it was probably Andy), but the minion is irrelevant now. We have to get the Demon to win.

Given the lack of outsider claims, it's you or me (or maybe Berry, but I simply can't see it given what's gone on so far this game).

So we kill me tonight and you tomorrow and we win. Or the other way around. Makes no difference to me at all.

Does it make any difference to you if we lynch you today, fedyshen?

Euro was killed after night 1. Euro nominated BS on night 1. Was the Demon protecting BS who survived by a hair after I nominated HanSo7o?

One final point:

Chyper cannot shoot anyone else now. If he does, and misses, we lose unless we guess right today.

As such, I think it's time to exile him, just in case he's on the evil team. He can still comment on the thread, but his role cannot now be used safely.

No. It doesn't, but I won't be voting yes on myself like HanSo7o as at this point it hurts our cause (especially if there is a minion still, unlikely).

I stated this 2 minute before your last post (but this may have been while you were typing).

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Again, you could have been poisoned on your result as BB so I'm not 100% convinced.

It's possible, although it would be rather bold for the demon to kill his accuser from Day 1 on Night 2.

Let's say we believe you, fedyshen. Then it's got to be me or Berry.

The common denominator in both of these is me. I have to go today so we can narrow it to Berry or fedyshen. But ultimately it comes down to who gives me the Demon vibe. Everything you post tells me that you have too much information about who is who, fedyshen. I, on the other hand, have been flailing around like a wet noodle pointing my fingers at almost everyone, including myself. You just seem too knowledgeable about what is going on, and that's not a thing a Monk can know.

I wish I was good enough to pull the wool over your eyes in this way but i am not lol. Yeah reading into it all, it all adds up. FedyShen not killing someone to pretend he protected FS from the demon. Good play but FS is world class

I'm not sure how killing you helps us decide if it is me or BS (or BB if you were poisoned night 1)? Care to elaborate?

Can we exile and execute someone on the same day?

Everyone is suspicious of me because of the way I've played. I also have a reputation of being a good player (somehow). I could have manufactured all of this and played everyone like a fiddle with the help of a spy. I have to die so everyone knows I'm telling the truth. Then we have a 50-50 tomorrow because we know Super is the last Outsider and Berry is the only other player I have a Demon read on. No matter which one of them dies, it has to be between you and Berry.

If I'm wrong, if there is a poisoner and I've spent the whole game poisoned, if BlueBoar has manipulated the hell out of me, then well played to him.

I suppose we could let me live one more day and get another read on BlueBoar, but honestly I think that's just muddying the waters unnecessarily.

If it comes down to a 50-50 between you and Berry, I'm voting for you. Everything is just too convenient.

So, here we go into the second half. Thanks for the break, TG!

No kill last night, that's a surprise. Either a fail because someone was protected/couldn't die or a rekill. Still, I suppose it gives us a bit of breathing space.

Interesting discussion between FS and fs going on as well. As there still isn't a lot I can go on, I might just go along with FS's plan to send him to the block first, and eliminate fs the day after. But I'm not sure yet.

Also, we should have a plan for the first nomination and votes, I think. We don't want Chyper to shoot someone at random again, I suppose. So, either we should get Chyper's intentions on who to shoot perfectly clear, or we should first nominate someone we trust so we can all keep our hands down for that player.

Agreed. I found the rules for this and I think we need to get the majority of all players (living and dead) - so 6?

whether we exile him or not, if we execute (wrongly today), and the Demon kills one of us that leave 3 remaining players. If we truly have a Mayor, and we don't execute anyone we win. If we are wrong, The demon executes someone at night, leaving 2 players and he wins.

If we don't exile Chyper, we could be down to 2 tomorrow and lose immediately.

yes

In fact, no. If Berry is the Demon, you and I are both telling the truth. You did protect me and Berry tried to kill me overnight.

Why would he do this?

I already have a Demon result on him which I have shared publicly. There is no need for him to kill me off any more. If he were the Demon, he's kill the claimed Monk first to be certain that the Monk can't interfere with his kills at the end of the game.

You also had very little sus on you (just the tiny bit PS threw on you at the end of Day 2), so it would have been difficult to frame you to get voted out. If I died, who is Berry going to get the town to vote out today?

It does not make sense for Berry to be the Demon. It's one of us two. Not 100% in my mind, but at least 95%.

No, we just exile him. We can't take the risk that he's evil. Shooting PS was an evil play. If we allow him the chance to shoot again today and he does, we are on the brink. He has to go just as much as I do.

JustSuper whisper requested me and then cancelled. Very odd.