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I have no idea why you are suggesting I should suspend my vote and I can assure you, I had no intension of doing so.

As for PS having a vote, he is entitled to one ghost vote, which he hasn't yet used and said in game at least once that he intended to save it for Fedyshen.

Irrelevant.

Corrected as I see PS has now voted.

My bad, I thought he had already voted

Yes, I had

I agree that it would have made sense for the confirmed town players, Euro and PS, to have kept their vote back, just in case. But I simply cannot see it being a problem unless exactly BlueBoar is the minion and BerryStraw the Demon, which is the last other possible scenario given the data we have:

1. HanSo7o - Librarian
2. JustSuper - Saint
3. BerryStraw - claimed Mayor, actually imp
4. chyperhondriac - Gunslinger
5. BlueBoar - claimed Ravenskeeper, actually minion
6. AndyP - Investigator
7. pleasantsurprise - Drunk Empath
8. Firesilver - Fortune Teller
9. fedyshen - Red Herring Monk
10. Euro - Undertaker

I just cannot see this being the case unless we've read people completely wrong all game. If we have, fair play to BS and BB for a masterfully played evil game. Not claiming a safe role on Day 1 with 6 votes on him and me still to vote would be the balls-iest evil play I've ever seen in a mafia game... and BlueBoar put his hand up for BerryStraw in that vote, which would be the second balls-iest evil play ever.

The other possible scenario is, of course, that I am the Demon, but I know this not to be the case.

When fedyshen is lynched, if the game doesn't end, we've probably just lost. They kill Super or myself overnight and the last three players will be the other one of us and the two evil players in the scenario above with no dead votes left to save us.

Either way, we've made our play now. PS can still unlock his one vote, but it would only be enough to tie a potential vote tomorrow if both evil players are alive. The game ends after this fedyshen lynch, and I'm still 99% sure we have the right Demon.

With everyone having used their final vote up, fedyshen also now cannot be saved. Even if we nominate someone else after he is put on the block with 7 votes, there's only 5 living players now. The game's over one way or the other... we just now have to go through the motions of waiting for AndyP to cast his vote, either way it doesn't matter.

I am surprised fedyshen hasn't cracked, because if he's evil his race is run, and he's lost. He can't wriggle out of it now, the voting system makes it impossible. In this scenario if I were him and evil I'd just concede the game.

Likewise, if I were the Demon at this point and my minion was still alive, I'd have started gloating

So come on, TG, Andy's had over 24 hours to vote since the nomination was claimed and the only thing holding us up now is the fact that fedy's vote didn't officially start until chyper's exile vote ended. Can't you call the day here for the sake of everyone's sanity?

As I'm almost certain that the game is about to come to an end in the morning at 9:07am, I have one final thing to reveal: the only thing I've kept back from the town, since I stopped all other pretence and dropped my investigator bluff for my true role of Fortune Teller.

I've played the game deliberately like this. I've made myself look suspicious on purpose (sorry, BB). The aim of this was to make the Demon think that he could leave me alive and use me later in the game to get an easy lynch on me at the key point. I've made it clear that I would lynch myself, even.

I wanted to stay alive for as long as possible so that I could vote every day and use my ability right up until the end of the game. I wanted to win this game for the town rather than relying on another experienced mafia player to do it for us. If, as I suspect, the game ends at 9am tomorrow when fedyshen's vote closes, then my ambitious play worked to perfection.

If Fedyshen is lynched and TG tells us the game continues to the night phase, my gamble will have lost us the game outright. There's absolutely no way I survive tomorrow's vote, although I'll do everything in my power to answer questions and persuade you guys, I've just generated far too much self-sus to actually get anyone to believe me.

It's a damn good thing I wasn't evil this game. I suck at playing evil. Whenever I try to be cunning, I get seen through in about a second (PS did it with my investigator bluff without batting an eyelid). My passion in these games is being the relentless detective, putting pressure on people until they crack, and I think I've done a decent job of it this game, although I say so myself.

I'm sabotaging my own chances of any future evil mafia game I play... but if I'm quiet in a mafia game, I'm evil. If I'm noisy, I'm town. I don't know any other way to play.

I won't be quoting Firesilver's ridiculously long post, which is largely twaddle anyway.

I'll let the voting between Firesilver and BlueBoar speak for itself. I have kept my voting chronologically (I hope), which Firesilver didn't, plus his ridiculous vote on himself and then his tongue in cheek nomination for himself which never actually happened.

Voting follows in next post...

My votes?
HanSo7o nominates Euro.
My hand is down for Euro.
Euro nominates BerryStraw.
My hand is up for BerryStraw.
BerryStraw nominates JustSuper.
My hand is down for JustSuper.
Fedyshen nominates HanSo7o.
My hand is up for HanSo7o.
Chyperhondriac nominates Fedyshen.
My hand is down for Fedyshen.
JustSuper nominates AndyP.
Chyper shoots Pleasantsurprise.
My hand is up for AndyP (trusting ps).
BerryStraw nominates Firesilver.
My hand is down for Firesilver.
Fedyshen nominates Chyperhondriac.
My hand is up for Chyperhondriac.
BlueBoar nominates Fedyshen.
My hand is up for Fedyshen.

Firesilver Votes?
My hand is down for Euro.
My hand is up for HanSo7o.
My hand is up for JustSuper.
Delayed vote on BerryStraw.
My hand is down on BerryStraw.
My hand is down for Fedyshen.
My hand is up for AndyP
My hand is up for Firesilver.
My hand is up for Chyperhondriac.
Firesilver nominates Firesilver - most tongue in cheek move of the whole game.
My hand is up for Fedyshen.

As you can see from the voting, yes I voted for BerryStraw whereas Firesilver didn't and yet he now has him as Imp but voted for Fedyshen instead of throwing a nomination at BerryStraw???

Even after all the votes have been cast, he's muddying the water, no doubt to make us believe we have screwed up.

Whatever happens, good game everyone.

Oh yes, it's total twaddle. There's less than a 1% chance that it's correct, in my mind. I'm entirely certain fedyshen is the demon and my only doubt comes from the fact he hasn't cracked when I would have done in his position, which is to his credit.

If I'm wrong on fedyshen, I will accept full and complete responsibility for losing the game for the town and give total credit to whoever has fooled me so thoroughly.

Ooh, I have one more thing to add.

I worked out who the drunk is. It's BerryStraw.

If PS was drunk empath, he would have been given incorrect data. He was told both myself and Andy were good.

We know now that Andy was the spy and would have registered as good to the true empath, and I know that I'm good, so PS received correct information on Night 1. We also know he wasn't poisoned because there's no poisoner in the game- Andy must be the spy at this point, I don't think it's possible for anyone else to be the minion given his claim and my data, and I'm quite sure his role was spy given how much fedyshen "worked out" after whispering to him.

So if PS isn't drunk, BerryStraw has to be.

A truly wicked twist from TG who was probably hoping that Berry would be in the final three, persuade everyone that he was the mayor and they didn't need to vote, and then his role malfunctions and the town loses the game.

I have been messaging TG with private thoughts and speculation all game for his amusement. No need to keep it to just him any more. If I'm wrong, you all get to laugh at me tomorrow!

This bit in itself makes you appear suspicious. Why would you share information with the storyteller and not here, in the thread to discuss the game? Maybe you have done both, but he would surely have his own amusement by reading what/where directions we advance.
Storyteller should only be contacted for questions relating to the rules or game. Making it sound like you contact him for amusement and often, place issues over your role and the way you appear. I guess those that know you accept that, but for game reasons, I'd be wary. I have felt I failed since the second day, and putting my head on the block for the town - was daft. It didn't have the desired effect but although fedyshen nominated me, it was encouraged too. Since that play, you have been my no.1 suspect for demon due to many factors. I await the game end for the reveal lol.

*From the top of an arid dune in the Mohaine Desert, I squint and unsteadily point my withered finger in Firesilver's general direction*

pew, pew!

fedyshen is executed, and dies...

Sadly you are too far away and miss by a whisker, damn those pesky kids and their exiling.

and the Good team has won!

Let me reveal how this all went down and how many of you got it wrong, and yet still came up with the right answer

Firstly HanSo7o was indeed your town Librarian who saw a drunk between pleasantsurprise and Berrystraw.

pleasantsurprise was indeed your Drunk with an Empath token. PS learned 0 on both nights as I chose to use his drunkedness to shown AndyP, the minion, as Good, alongside Firesilver.

Berrystraw was indeed the Mayor who was neither drunk nor anything else to make his ability fail. The aim was to give the both teams an 'out' if you got to the game thoroughly confused by all the misinformation - more on that in a bit

What nobody considered was the possibility that the Mayor was attacked at any point. Perhaps the Mayor was attacked night 1 and I bounced the kill onto Euro? Or perhaps he was attached again on Night 3 and it bounced to Firesilver to trigger the Monk's protection? That aspect of the Mayor's ability seemed to have passed you all by and could easily have changed the course of the game.

Anyway, JustSuper was indeed the Saint who could easily have been executed on Day 1 and BB was, as claimed, the Ravenkeeper who was figured out by Evil very early on so never got killed.

Euro, was, of course, the Undertaker who was expertly killed before getting any information. (Fun fact, I originally meant there to be a virgin instead of an Undertaker but I decided at tyhe last minute to swap in Undertaker just because I figured Good would have zero useful information otherwise - and then he gets sniped night1 anyway!)

Chyperhondriac was, in fact, Good. For the record I think his choice was a good one, PS was clearly the drunk by that point, wasn't going to get anything useful, if he'd lasted the night after AndyP died you can be sure he would get a 1 on FS and BB that night casting doubt on BB. Not to mention that if Good kills twice as many players as Evil then your chances of killing the Demon double. Allowing him 2 shots on the last day would have given another extra chance before any more unreliable info came out.

That leaves us with the critical trio, FS, fed and AndyP.

Well you now know fedyshen was the Demon, but was he actually the Scarlett Woman who picked up the Demonhood from AndyP when he died? Nah, he was the Imp all along.

fed was given Recluse, Monk and Investigator as not in play characters so you they were not taken in for a second by Super's Monk claim or FS' Investigator claim but perhaps missed a trick by not calling those out at the time.

What they did do however was poison FS, yes, AndyP was actually the Poisoner! The evil team actually played this really well, they figured out the Ravenkeeper, the Saint, the Undertaker, the Drunk AND the Fortune Teller and avoided, killed and poisoned their way through the game perfectly enough that good were convinced there was a Spy.

Firesilver was the Fortune Teller who was sober on night 1 when he got a No on PS & BB then poisoned on night 2 when he got a Yes on Super & BS before finding the Demon on night 3 with a yes on himself and fedyshen. At no point did he hit his red herring though, that was Euro. Done to cast some doubt on Euro's info, had he got any.

Good had only 1 useful piece of info the whole game, that FT yes on fed on the last night, by which time you'd already got fed nailed down as Demon purely on the social side of the game so well done Good but also well done Evil, made all the right choices but perhaps weren't online at the crucial times to call out the good team's lies.

So there you have your game of IAG plays Blood on the Clocktower. I hope you all enjoyed whether you won or lost.

From my perspective it was interesting to see everyone picking up the game pretty well, given the huge amount of info at the start I was quite worried about whether it would be too much. I was relatively happy with the way voting worked but the delays we had in voting really was giving Good waaaaay too much time to solve the puzzle so I think next time I might get the nominations in then close the game thread while voting happens.


I felt bad for evil having done so much so well but still getting stomped on despite a bunch is misinterpreted info. I guess the takeaway is to really commit to the bluffs you choose.

Fed had a recluse bluff available which was an option to try and throw off the outsider count. If there was info on a drunk, and a recluse claim which would have tied up with fortune Teller, Undertaker (in combination with a self-kill star pass to minion) and Empath info I was wondering if that might end up with the Saint getting executed. That was the risky approach though Monk was much safer and Investigator was good for the minion. AS you all noticed Demon & Minion did whisper on day 1 to share all the info they got from other players and pretty much pieced the whole thing together in one whisper.

I wondered at one point if they'd go for a poison & kill of the Ravenkeeper which might have been pretty interesting but instead they went with the Fortune Teller which was just as good a pick.

I didn't see a lot of discussion on how / why the claimed Fortune Teller was left alive to the end, it wasn't because they didn't know what FS was, it was because they could poison him and having an FT with bad info was better than a dead FT potentially.

Lastly I wanted to cover the no death on Night 3. fed opted to sink his kill into an already dead player to help support his Monk claim. For the record, he chose AndyP (lol). it helped a little but I think the game was already done for him by then. Perhaps if he'd claimed to have protected someone else rather than FS or if he'd put out the Mayor bounce possibility then it might have had more credibility and perhaps a bit more chaos from AndyP on the last day might have helped too but it's kinda hard once you know you're bang to rights.


By the way, the final game Grimoire can be seend at the link in my profile.

Well well well, very interesting...!

Thanks for putting this all together TG, I know it will have taken a lot of effort to set up and to sleep the plates spinning. Thanks also for accommodating my lateness and giving me such an...explosive role

Congrats to everyone and thank you for making it fun - especially to our resident gumshoe FS and his acronym namesake fs who stayed strong under his relentless questioning.

Next time I will shoot twice the people, twice as hard, twice as quickly!

Also the sharing 3 roles thing.... fed got some suss on him for sharing 3 roles because that's what the Demon gets but he wasn't the only person that did that and it was a strategy I had specifically recommended during the setup posts. Good played this game more like it was a Mafia game rather than clocktower, understandable of course given it's a transitional; first game but the lack of confirmation on death and the ability to talk after death really does change how information can be shared.

It's pretty standard in most clocktower games for people to either hard claim or 3 for 3 in their early game whispers. 3 for 3 allows sharing of info without putting too much of a target on players with powerful good roles. You can give your role claim then to multiple people without the Evils being any the wiser on who to kill.

fed didn't even share all 3 of the roles he was given, he took the chance to tweak them a little which, if there had been a soldier in the game, would have also made it look less like Demon bluffs.

Euro suffered from having said very little about his role early on, Evil took that as a sign he was worth killing. This is one case where sharing a 3 for 3 with Undertaker and maybe Saint or Ravenkeeper or Soldier in would have put the Demon off from trying to kill him.

That said, there's no wrong way to play this game and Good won so whatever you did, worked