| Quote: Originally posted by HanSo7o FS claiming BS is the Mayor....
Fedyshen confirmning BS is the Mayor...
I can confirm too that in the first chats with BS, he revealed to me he is the Mayor too. He kind of hinted at it, regarding a post relating to the advice of keeping him in the game until the latter stages. Both of you, if Demon, would know this... and would likely make BS a target for the Night phase after or including tonight.
Funny how you both knew this though
Oh, mine was a pure guess and process of elimination, Han. It's the last powerful town role on the list that fedyshen hasn't told us is in the game and hasn't been claimed, other than Slayer, and it's not hard to piece together that Berry hasn't been playing a Slayer style of game.
I still find it utterly hilarious that the Mayor told the Demon what his role was, but it's forgivable. I've made plenty of dumb mistakes too along the way.  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by BlueBoar There is a certain amount of doubt in my mind that the assumption I am making here is correct, but Firesilver seems to be giving things away now, such is his confidence in the muddy water he has left behind.
Such as saying that town have been killing town and that the spy doesn't appear evil to the empath. Sadly both these things are true and we have been rather dumb collectively.
In my opinion, if we vote Firesilver today, it will be a bad thing as he has quite clearly been leading us down the garden path with his long posts and his indecision in discussion. I think he is sacrificing himself to allow his boss the chance to win the game.
Does anyone else see this or am I wrong?
Sadly BlueBoar this is impossible. If AndyP was the real investigator, then he said that one of you or BerryStraw was the poisoner. It's impossible for me to be the minion at this point unless AndyP was poisoned on Night 1, and it's pretty clear now in my eyes that we have no poisoner given how much fedyshen has known about the game for so long. You will have to come to your own conclusion, of course.
It's still possible for me to be the demon, though, if AndyP was my spy, and if fedyshen has just got incredibly lucky knowing exactly who is who at every step of the game following his early whisper with AndyP.
You've seen the emotional rollercoaster I've been on where I thought I knew what was going on early doors, realised I was wrong (because unlike the Demon I have incomplete information), fell into a bit of despair for being an idiot, and then slowly regained confidence, before finally cracking the case with a massive amount of satisfaction. (I hope.)
I could easily have been faking the rollercoaster of emotions too. It's up to you whether to believe that it was genuine or not. I'm autistic, and I very much wear my emotions on my sleeve and don't hold them back.
But really... ask yourself if I was the minion, would I be tearing my boss to pieces like this?  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by pleasantsurprise Can someone please nominate fedyshen then all vote for him so we can get this over with.
Don?t vote for FS for goodness sake. We don?t need this to go on for another night and day.
Sorry, PS. I was just having a little fun. I think my case is as watertight as it's possible to be in this style of game. But I am recognising that there are people out there like BlueBoar who, understandably, don't trust me an inch.
If you don't trust me, though, trust the logic. There's no other combination of roles that makes sense any more given what we know. | |
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| MAKE SURE WE EXILE CHYPER FIRST BEFORE FINISHING THE VOTE ON FEDYSHEN, GUYS.
No need to take risks. | |
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| FYI Votes are done in order of the nominations, no vote can finish (or even start) until the previous one is complete. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by TopGun2 FYI Votes are done in order of the nominations, no vote can finish (or even start) until the previous one is complete.
I desperately need to read the rules for nominations and voting again, don't I?  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by FiresilverI desperately need to read the rules for nominations and voting again, don't I? 
I'm saying nothing about who should or shouldn't re-read the rules  | |
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| How about you leave me in and vote out fedyshen? Then I can shoot Firesilver.
Job done  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriacHow about you leave me in and vote out fedyshen? Then I can shoot Firesilver.
Job done 
Or...We can vote you out and you can kill FedyShen? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by JustSuper Or...We can vote you out and you can kill FedyShen?
Sadly...a) I'm pretty sure my ability only applies to nominations for execution and not for exile, and b) I feel it's unlikely I'd be allowed to shoot anyone once I was exiled
My plan, however, is watertight  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by TopGun2 FYI Votes are done in order of the nominations, no vote can finish (or even start) until the previous one is complete.
I have been going on the premise that if my hand was up, my vote would be counted even if my arm ached like hell for being up so long.
Thank-you for bolding my nomination, I was about to go out and rushed the post a bit. Apologies. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by BlueBoar I have been going on the premise that if my hand was up, my vote would be counted even if my arm ached like hell for being up so long.
Thank-you for bolding my nomination, I was about to go out and rushed the post a bit. Apologies.
Votes are counted based on whether the hand is up or down when it's each person's turn to vote. If they've indicated neither up or down when it becomes their turn then I wait until they do before moving on and counting the next one, subject to an overall timer of 24 hours for a complete vote on a nomination. I.e. anyone who hasn't indicated anything within 24 hours is counted as a hand down vote.
You will have noticed that I am announcing when the time starts on each vote, that's the point at which votes start being counted. Nothing is counted until voting is live on that nomination and then only when it's the right person's turn to vote.
I don't start the timer on any nomination while a previous vote is active (i.e. timer is running). Remember you're all sat in a circle in a room and I'm counting hands as I look around the circle - I can't be doing that for two separate votes at the same time. One must finish before the next can start. In the interests of saving time I allow people to indicate their vote in advance of it being their turn or even the vote count starting for a nomination but those are not locked in until the vote is active and it's the that person's turn. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriacHow about you leave me in and vote out fedyshen? Then I can shoot Firesilver.
Job done 
You won't be able to shoot me after fedyshen is voted out, chyper. The game will be over.
But in the highly unlikely event you could, it would still be the wrong move. If I've got it horribly wrong and fedyshen isn't the demon, we'd almost certainly have a kill tonight leaving us with 3 players alive- three out of four of me, Berry, BlueBoar and Super.
Then we'd have one more day cycle to make our final vote. You don't get to make it for us because you've already shown your gunslinger judgment to be, at best impulsive, and at worst, evil.
In any case, if we lynch fedyshen and he's not the demon, and you then shoot me, the game will be over, but not in favour of the town. Evil will win. You've already had to apologise to PS. Are you ready to do the same to every single town player? DO you think I would ever let you forget what a balls up you made shooting first PS and then me, who will both be revealed to be town?
Your role lost its usefulness after you used it the first time. That's on you. One person doesn't get to decide the fate of the game. We vote on it. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver You won't be able to shoot me after fedyshen is voted out, chyper. The game will be over.
Umm, akshually...
Pretty sure my bullet of justice is delivered immediately, before the execution. After all, there could be more nominations no?
So, my trigger finger stands ready
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver
You've already had to apologise to PS.
Had to? Chose to?
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver One person doesn't get to decide the fate of the game. We vote on it.
Pretty sure that is the raison d'être of the Gunslinger. After all...
Quote: Originally posted by BotC Wiki
It's time someone took matters into their own hands. That someone... is me. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriac Pretty sure my bullet of justice is delivered immediately, before the execution.
Justice? Is that what you gave PS?
You think justice for me for this game is to shoot me after I've outed the Demon?
You're a trigger happy nutjob, chyper. That, or you're evil.
Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriac Had to? Chose to?
It's generally considered pretty mandatory if you shoot an innocent man to apologise for it.
Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriac Pretty sure that is the of the Gunslinger. After all...
The job of the gunslinger is to help his team win. With great power comes great responsibility, after all. You have been anything but responsible and you thoroughly deserve the exiling you're about to receive. Ta-ra!  | |
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| You know the worst thing, chyper?
If you survive your exile vote, you're effectively forcing me to put my hand down for fedyshen.
Because I know that if I've somehow got it wrong, and fedyshen isn't the Demon, you will shoot me, fedyshen will get lynched, and then the real Demon kills in the night and we lose.
Are you actually going to force me to put my hand down on the person I'm entirely convinced is the Demon just because if I'm wrong about it, we lose outright?
Is that a good town play, chyper?
My alternative is to keep my hand up, trust in my convictions, and if we lose as a result of it at least I'll have someone else to share the blame with.
You are going to feel like a total moron, though. I'm trying to save you from that. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver If you survive your exile vote
I won't, don't sweat it
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver you will shoot me
See above
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver You are going to feel like a total moron, though.
Just a normal Friday night for me, then
Oh but...
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver With great power comes great responsibility, after all.
Not for me!
Quote: Originally posted by The Rules Typically Travellers have all of the power and none of the responsibility!
Seriously though - you might disagree with my methods, but I was the first person to nominate fedyshen (you all ignored me on that) and it was only after PS died that he came out plainly with his accusations.
Say it with me: Chaotic Good, baybee | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriac Seriously though - you might disagree with my methods, but I was the first person to nominate fedyshen (you all ignored me on that) and it was only after PS died that he came out plainly with his accusations.
Say it with me: Chaotic Good, baybee
Total rubbish. PS did not change a single thing once you shot him. All you did was limit him to 1 vote for the rest of the game. He did not provide any additional information after you killed him, because he had nothing left to share. He was the first one to claim his role and fully divulge his information, ultimately helping the town win. He was the one that started the push on AndyP and he was the one that got me started on fedyshen.
And his reward? Shot by you.
If you survive your exile, I'm putting my hand down on fedyshen, and I'm going to fume at you for the entire rest of the game if we lose because of it. Your only saving grace will be if you're eventually revealed as evil, which TG might as well have made you even if he didn't, given your total disregard for town strategy.
You might as well have put a serial killer into the game, TG.  | |
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| I remember WiFi being a serial killer in a Mafia game.
Absolute mayhem it was!  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver he was the one that got me started on fedyshen.
After I shot him...just beforehand you were saying:
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver Now this is a Monk claim I can believe. How much experience do you have playing mafia games, fedyshen? You seem to have a good grasp on what's going on.
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver And his reward? Shot by you.
Indeed, I shot him and then he came clean with his theory, which you fleshed out into a proper case. Nice working with you both!
Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver If you survive your exile
I won't!
Quote: Originally posted by FiresilverYour only saving grace will be if you're eventually revealed as evil, which TG might as well have made you even if he didn't, given your total disregard for town strategy.
You might as well have put a serial killer into the game, TG. 
Sorry, I might be bad but I'm not evil
Anyway, fedyshen still hasn't explained why he voted hand down for AndyP. | |
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