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26th Jun 25 10:11 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
JustSuper whisper requested me and then cancelled. Very odd.

Because he believes me.

I can't see much use for whispering now. Everything is as out in the open as it's ever going to be.
 
26th Jun 25 10:13 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
JustSuper whisper requested me and then cancelled. Very odd.


I was going to tell you i was the Saint which was why i "claimed your role", but then i saw FireSilvers post so i felt no need to whisper you.
 
26th Jun 25 10:20 PM
BerryStraw
Posts 284
All right. To be honest, I don't have much else to add to what has been said today thus far.

I'm interested if anyone else, including the dead, have any other viewpoints on the logic and plans that are discussed here. Anyone?
 
26th Jun 25 10:22 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
I see Chyper has requested to whisper PS. Maybe he is apologizing
 
26th Jun 25 10:48 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Quote:
Originally posted by JustSuper
I see Chyper has requested to whisper PS. Maybe he is apologizing

Maybe
 
26th Jun 25 11:02 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Sorry to exile you, chyper, but we simply can't take the risk that you're evil at this point. To be fair, it's your own fault. If you hadn't shot PS yesterday we'd still be on 6 players and you would have lived through the day- and got a chance to shoot the real demon. Trigger happy Gunslingers are a risk that can't be taken by a town on the cusp of victory.
 
26th Jun 25 11:04 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
In fact, no. If Berry is the Demon, you and I are both telling the truth. You did protect me and Berry tried to kill me overnight.

Why would he do this?

I already have a Demon result on him which I have shared publicly. There is no need for him to kill me off any more. If he were the Demon, he's kill the claimed Monk first to be certain that the Monk can't interfere with his kills at the end of the game.

You also had very little sus on you (just the tiny bit PS threw on you at the end of Day 2), so it would have been difficult to frame you to get voted out. If I died, who is Berry going to get the town to vote out today?

It does not make sense for Berry to be the Demon. It's one of us two. Not 100% in my mind, but at least 95%.

Just as a follow up to this...

PS publicly called for me to be protected last night. Why would the Demon take the massive, massive risk that the monk really would, when there were several other soft targets?

The answer, of course, is that he didn't. The demon instead tried to use the lack of death as a cover for his claimed role, to generate trust.

Sadly for him, the town's attack dog (woof woof) was on his case before he even got the chance to make his bluff. Whine. Good dog!
 
26th Jun 25 11:14 PM
pleasantsurprise
Posts 1,536
Quote:
Originally posted by JustSuper
I see Chyper has requested to whisper PS. Maybe he is apologizing


Perhaps...
 
26th Jun 25 11:17 PM
pleasantsurprise
Posts 1,536
I don't think I can add anything to what's already been said tonight.

I'm holding back my vote to use it on fedyshen.
 
26th Jun 25 11:24 PM
fedyshen
Posts 87
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise

I'm holding back my vote to use it on fedyshen.


The vote to exile is a free vote and is open to all dead and alive players. And doesn't use up a dead players vote (although I wish it used up yours )
 
26th Jun 25 11:29 PM
pleasantsurprise
Posts 1,536
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
The vote to exile is a free vote and is open to all dead and alive players. And doesn't use up a dead players vote (although I wish it used up yours )


I thought that might be thw case but I'm just checking with TG
 
26th Jun 25 11:34 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
I'm massively overdoing it here, but let's deliver the coup de grace:

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
My long reply I draft before reading the above accusations.

You drafted what you were going to say before you knew what was going to happen overnight? But of course, you already knew what would happen overnight, so making the draft was easy.

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
Last night I protected FS as that is what the forum suggested I do. Looks like it has worked? Or the Demon is toying with us.

Bit of a shame you did this, as it just confirms what I said above. If you'd said you protected someone else (like BlueBoar), then it would have been much more believable when no night kill happened. The fact that a claimed Monk survived the night AND protected someone they were publicly told to protect successfully is beyond suspicious. Monks can't be allowed to live by a Demon and Demons don't go for kills on targets they think will be protected.

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
Firesilver is Fortune Teller - Could HanSo7o or BerryStraw be his Red Herring? SO is BerryStraw Evil? FS night 1 result = Not Demon (PS and BB), Night 2 BS or JS = Demon. So if he is telling the truth, BB should be Town (unless FS was poisoned night 1). BS or JS could be Demon or his red herring (or he could have been poisoned). This means FS should inquire about Me and a repeat last night. Very interesting. Even more interesting if we haven't killed the Poisoner (if there was one).

Inquiring about a repeat was too risky. I had to narrow it down to the point where I could be 100% certain of the other name. The only player in the game that I'm absolutely 100% certain is town is... well, me. So you're the red herring, or you're the Demon.

If you're the red herring and Berry is the Demon after all, I've been utterly bamboozled, and good on TG for arranging that. If I was poisoned, then good on the poisoner for hitting the one in seven at the start of the game, but I don't think a poisoner was ever in the game at all.

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
BlueBoar told me in a Whisper he would try to get Evil to kill him on Night 2 or 3, however he has done nothing to try to get killed, and not revelaed his role publicly. He told me his role as I was able to narrow it down from his '3 options' he gave me'. This is now ringing alarm bells.

Sadly for you, I happen to trust BlueBoar at this point, because of my Not Demon read. This is another reason to kill me today- to confirm BlueBoar to everyone else as another 100% town (assuming no poison). You can't even kill him at night now, because he'll pick you with his ability.

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
I Whispered to BB on Day 2 that I thought FS was actually the Fortune Teller before his bluff fell apart and he confirmed this on the forum.

And you knew this because the spy told you, of course. My breadcrumbs weren't picked up by the best town player we have in PS, you want me to believe that you did? Why did you whisper this to BB instead of coming straight to me if you thought I was bluffing an good role as a good role? BlueBoar, did fedyshen actually whisper to you on Day 2 that he thought I was Fortune Teller before I revealed it publicly?

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
Euro was executed Night 1 after he nominated BS...

...because you knew his role thanks to the spy. Nothing to do with BS. You want to point fingers at BB, BS, anyone but yourself.

Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
I allegedly told AndyP how to play. I would say I read the player info and pushed him to tell us as much as possible as knowing the type of Minion we were up against was important. Especially since we never pushed FS on this (he bluffed investigator) and this could have ended his bluff earlier.

But my bluff was good for the town, ultimately. It got PS involved, it got the role claiming started. PS is rarely wrong in mafia games and that's what set me onto looking into you.
 
26th Jun 25 11:35 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
I don't think I can add anything to what's already been said tonight.

Ooh, I got proud shivers down my neck. I did as good a job as PS could have done.
 
26th Jun 25 11:37 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
And doesn't use up a dead players vote (although I wish it used up yours )

You say you're happy to die today, and yet you wish that people won't vote for you. Inconsistency. I actively want to be nominated today and I'll once again put my hand up for myself. I bet you won't. Town players aren't afraid to die for the good of the town. If I were Monk in your place, I'd be saying "Kill me tonight, I'm too suspicious and can't be allowed to be in the last 3 players because I'll lose us the game."
 
26th Jun 25 11:41 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
I thought that might be thw case but I'm just checking with TG

Quote:
Originally posted by TopGun2
Anyone can vote whether dead or alive and the vote doesn't count as a dead player's one last vote.

Taken directly from the "travellers" section of the rule thread. You're good to go, PS.
 
27th Jun 25 12:11 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by BerryStraw
All right. To be honest, I don't have much else to add to what has been said today thus far.

I think you have exactly one thing to add, Berry- your role claim. Fedyshen has already outed you as the Mayor after I took a stab at guessing it. Confirmation from you will clear Super 100% as we don't have any other outsider claims.

For the record, fedyshen, if you had claimed recluse and killed someone last night, I'd would have been much less certain about going after you. I would have had a 50-50 between you and Super, and you might have been able to persuade me. My Demon result from tonight on you would also have made sense. This is the mistake you made I'm afraid- but it's a good learning experience, eh? I've learned plenty this game.
 
27th Jun 25 1:02 AM
BlueBoar
Posts 166
@firesilver... Yes, 14 hours before.
 
27th Jun 25 1:37 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueBoar
@firesilver... Yes, 14 hours before.

So go on, fedyshen. Tell me how you knew I was fortune teller before I announced it. If you can persuade me on this one, I might let you off the hook.

If you can't... well, it's confirmation that we had a spy. And that it was AndyP. And that the recipient was fedyshen.

I don't think you guys need to vote me off first any more... right?
 
27th Jun 25 1:52 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
1. HanSo7o - Librarian
2. JustSuper - Red Herring Saint
3. BerryStraw - Mayor (possibly Drunk)

4. chyperhondriac - Gunslinger
5. BlueBoar - Ravenskeeper
6. AndyP - claimed Investigator, actually Spy
7. pleasantsurprise - Empath (possibly drunk)
8. Firesilver - Fortune Teller

9. fedyshen - claimed Monk, actually Imp
10. Euro - Undertaker

The only things I'm not sure on now are who was drunk (given that spy doesn't appear evil to the empath) and chyper's alignment, and if I had to make a guess, I'd say he was Chaotic Good.
 
27th Jun 25 2:00 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
You made an impressive defence, fedyshen, but your implication about being Monk was just impossible. You certainly had less impact on the game than I expected, the town killed more town players than you did.

I think I've finished imparting my words of wisdom now and I don't think my senses are impaired. You won't be impaling any more poor souls on the clocktower hands. I'd hate to impugn your reputation but you impending doom is nigh. Nothing you say now can impede my investigation of you. It's time this town was no longer impure. I think I've imposed on you all enough now. The length of my posts will improve from now on.
 
 
 

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