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27th Jun 25 9:42 PM
fedyshen
Posts 87
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac

Anyway, fedyshen still hasn't explained why he voted hand down for AndyP.


TG2 said my vote was in due to not commenting soon enough. I was golfing. Much more relaxing than this

FS requested we hang him as he would be off until Wednesday. So this is what I did.

I trusted AndyP's info from our Day 1 Whisper. Did I find it odd he wouldn't give his full investigator details once he said this was his role... yes. But I gave him a break as no one called out FS when he pretended to be Investigator and didn't tell us what Minion we were up against. His info he sent me about FS seemed to line up. As previously stated that info, and FS's holes in his Investigator play made me guess he was the Fortune Teller. So I didn't see a concern.
 
27th Jun 25 11:46 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac
Indeed, I shot him and then he came clean with his theory, which you fleshed out into a proper case. Nice working with you both!

Do you kill all your co-workers?

You should also bear in mind that in that quote you posted of mine that I was fishing for fedyshen to see how much he'd played before, because I was getting the feeling than he knew more than he'd let on. But it was still just a feeling at that stage.

PS came up with his theory about Andy being coached by fedyshen on page 21. You shot him at the end of page 22. Stop taking credit for other people's good play when you're playing terribly. You did nothing to make PS get more involved in the game. I did that 10 pages earlier. You did the opposite.

You're right, you're going to be exiled, and you richly deserve it. You brought it on yourself. You've done nothing but harm your own side and you were planning to keep doing it if given the chance.
 
28th Jun 25 12:31 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
His info he sent me about FS seemed to line up.

You have literally just stated that AndyP sent you information that I was the Fortune Teller. Information AndyP could not have known if he was really Investigator. I did not tell Andy my role in our whisper. The only person I was completely open to about my role was BlueBoar. BB can confirm this.

You whispered 4 other people to guess their roles but you didn't whisper the one person you were allegedly sure about to confirm with him. Why not? Because you didn't want to be associated with me when my bluff fell down.

I'm sorry, fedyshen, I'm just not buying it. If you read through the thread again (which I have) and pick out your posts, you know far more than you should do if you were Monk. You also successfully "guessed" the roles of the 4 people you whispered to. You're either a mafia genius, incredibly lucky, or have access to someone who's seen the grimoire.
 
28th Jun 25 1:07 AM
fedyshen
Posts 87
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver


I'm sorry, fedyshen, I'm just not buying it. If you read through the thread again (which I have) and pick out your posts, you know far more than you should do if you were Monk. You also successfully "guessed" the roles of the 4 people you whispered to. You're either a mafia genius, incredibly lucky, or have access to someone who's seen the grimoire.


This is a game of guessing. AndyP said you had you thought two people were a pair. I studied the character chart to see what that could be. Can't be the Empath as there weren't beside you. Can't be the Librarian as that person knows about an outsider (technically good, but punitive to the good team). Washerwoman wouldn't know that 2 people were good. Investigator knows there which Minion there was, so doesn't fit what Andy said you said. Chef doesn't learn about good players. Undertaker and other good roles don't learn anything on night 1.

So what does that leave? You guessed it. The Fortune Teller.

Could AndyP have lied to me... of course. But him saying you thought a pair of people were good screams Fortune Teller.
- FS - If my logic is flawed I'm happy to hear it. For my next game.

Just because I read the roles and tried to deduce peoples characters doesn't make me evil.

Again.. all of this was to 'guess' peoples characters - Its a game of lying so its impossible to tell.

Your ability to 'deduce' that we have a spy is very odd. I'll take it as complement to my digging on player's characters. I'm still convinced there is a poisoner (but yes, not 100% sure). The confusion could be a combination of our drunk, red herring and or a Spy mis-registering to an Empath - You COULD be right, but you could be wrong.

I could only whisper to so many people (time-wise). If I got to do more Whispering, I was hoping to find contradictions and out some bad apples. I never fully got there though.
 
28th Jun 25 1:14 AM
fedyshen
Posts 87
Blueboar was Virgin, Butler or Ravenskeeper (if not lying) - How was this not hard to deduce. Virgin would want to be killed by HanSo7o. Butler (just look at the voting patterns).

BS just told me he was the Mayor (again, if true) - No deduction required
 
28th Jun 25 1:19 AM
fedyshen
Posts 87
Quote:
Originally posted by BerryStraw
Just to add to the suspicion, as it doesnt't actually prove anything: fedyshen mentioned in our whisper on day 2 that BB told him he wanted to whisper me. In our recent whisper, I asked BB if he mentioned to anyone that he wanted to whisper me, which he denied. Strange, eh?


Whoops. My bad. This was a mistake. This was my conversation with HanSo7o, not BB. If I die for this.... fair play... a trip up on my part.
 
28th Jun 25 5:29 AM
HanSo7o
Posts 68
Quote:
Originally posted by fedyshen
Whoops. My bad. This was a mistake. This was my conversation with HanSo7o, not BB. If I die for this.... fair play... a trip up on my part.


He did.
 
28th Jun 25 9:08 AM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
The longer fedyshen still doesn't crack, the more nervous I'm getting about the situation again. I don't have the same feelings as I did with BerryStraw on the first day, but I'm still starting to feel nervous.

Is it at all possible that BerryStraw is pulling the wool over over eyes? Surely not. Everyone seems totally convinced by him and he didn't claim a role even when he was on the brink of being voted out. Super has to be clear because of the lack of outsider claims. I have a Not Demon read on BlueBoar: I'd have had to be poisoned, which would have had to be exactly one of BerryStraw or Andy. But why would Andy point the finger at BB as well as BS in his investigator claim if he was on the same team as him? Surely not.

The process of elimination only leaves fedyshen. But why isn't he cracking? The weight of evidence is overwhelming.

Please can we just get this over with and put me out of my misery? I don't think AndyP is coming back to the game now...
 
28th Jun 25 10:36 AM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Quote:
Originally posted by TopGun2
I should add, with 5 players alive you need 3 votes to put fedyshen on the block.

So, is this three votes full stop or is it a majority of living and dead (and exiled, sob sob) players? If four living players are hands down and one hands up, how many ghost votes are needed - two, to reach three, or four, to reach a majority?
 
28th Jun 25 10:51 AM
TopGun2
Posts 697
It is what it says

Half of the living players (rounded up) are required to put someone on the block, unless another nominee has already got the same or more votes, in which case you need to beat that number.
 
28th Jun 25 11:30 AM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Ah I see - so in my scenario only two ghost votes are needed to get the total to more than half the number of living players
 
28th Jun 25 11:59 AM
BerryStraw
Posts 284
In case we get it wrong and there will also be a kill tonight, I propose we don't execute anyone tomorrow.

Yes, I claim mayor.

From here, it will require me and another town player to make it until tomorrow for the win.

Can someone who's dead save their vote to counter Andy's possible vote on the last day? I think he could still force an execution otherwise.
 
28th Jun 25 12:06 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Quote:
Originally posted by BerryStraw
In case we get it wrong and there will also be a kill tonight, I propose we don't execute anyone tomorrow.

Yes, I claim mayor.

From here, it will require me and another town player to make it until tomorrow for the win.

Can someone who's dead save their vote to counter Andy's possible vote on the last day? I think he could still force an execution otherwise.

I was thinking of withdrawing my vote as it looks like we're going to get more than enough for fedyshen. As we're waiting on JS, only Euro's vote is locked in, I think.

However, ghosts can't vote 'no' - so if an execution was forced we'd have to go through with it, or execute the living person who voted with Andy
 
28th Jun 25 1:18 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by Firesilver
The longer fedyshen still doesn't crack, the more nervous I'm getting about the situation again. I don't have the same feelings as I did with BerryStraw on the first day, but I'm still starting to feel nervous.

Is it at all possible that BerryStraw is pulling the wool over over eyes? Surely not. Everyone seems totally convinced by him and he didn't claim a role even when he was on the brink of being voted out. Super has to be clear because of the lack of outsider claims. I have a Not Demon read on BlueBoar: I'd have had to be poisoned, which would have had to be exactly one of BerryStraw or Andy. But why would Andy point the finger at BB as well as BS in his investigator claim if he was on the same team as him? Surely not.

The process of elimination only leaves fedyshen. But why isn't he cracking? The weight of evidence is overwhelming.

Please can we just get this over with and put me out of my misery? I don't think AndyP is coming back to the game now...


Of course he isnt cracking. The demon isnt going to say " Okay guys you got me, well played"
 
28th Jun 25 1:20 PM
Firesilver
Posts 1,340
Not you, chyper. We still have no confirmation you?re not evil. PS or Euro are the better candidates for this. Use up your vote please.
 
28th Jun 25 1:22 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac
Umm, akshually...
Pretty sure my bullet of justice is delivered immediately, before the execution. After all, there could be more nominations no?

So, my trigger finger stands ready


Had to? Chose to?


Pretty sure that is the of the Gunslinger. After all...


I dont know why we are all assuming Cypher is a good GunSlinger just for the "balance of the game". That in of itself would make the game too predictable, and i suspect TG made him evil to throw us off. Even with how bad at the game I am i have not blundered as hard as Cyhper which makes me convinced he is evil.
 
28th Jun 25 2:24 PM
BlueBoar
Posts 166
I expect Chyper will not be voting in this day phase now, as I can see no reason for removing your vote temporarily or otherwise.

That could prove dangerous for town if Fedyshen is not demon.
 
28th Jun 25 2:53 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Euro's vote is locked in. I'm stopping mine and BB's being locked. Then it just needs Andy to swoop in and confirm his vote and PS is locked in too.

If you care about PS having a vote BB, then suspend yours like I have to give him a chance to remove his. I'll put mine back once yours is suspended.

Or if you're not bothered, I'll just put it back now
 
28th Jun 25 2:55 PM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Oh and we need confirmation from TG that BB's suspension is accepted
 
28th Jun 25 3:14 PM
TopGun2
Posts 697
You have remembered the rule I added on night 2 right?
 
 
 

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