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21st Jun 25 10:15 AM
Euro
Posts 33
Weekends are not generally good for me, that's family time.

I don't think revealing my role and any info I have would be more helpful to the town than the Mafia at this point, so I won't be doing that. I still don't trust anyone, including Hanso, as his role is yet to be confirmed. I am inclined to believe Hanso though.

My main focus is on AndyP, he has info and seemed very keen to share it with FS on day 1, his reasoning being he did not know who to trust. He has whispered to PS today, but not come to me. He also has contributed little to the group in general but worst of all, voted down on Hanso as the penultimate vote which allowed me the opportunity to leave it as a tie. He has the chance to ensure we got a lunch and did not take it and has not offered an explanation for why he did this.
 
21st Jun 25 10:17 AM
pleasant_2nd
Posts 961
Quote:
Originally posted by HanSo7o
Better add this for PS being unable to find said posts


And where in FS?s post does he say he?s the investigator?
 
21st Jun 25 10:18 AM
Euro
Posts 33
Also all role claims can (and should) be taken with a pinch of salt as things stand - the Mafia know which specific roles they can safely claim and it's very easy to hide behind drunk/poisoned results to look credible when actually throwing out bad info.
 
21st Jun 25 10:19 AM
Euro
Posts 33
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
And where in FS?s post does he say he?s the investigator?


Based on the info provided by FS, what roles could he be?
 
21st Jun 25 10:26 AM
BerryStraw
Posts 284
Maybe no tips from Sadiq Khan, but PS has been reading Kafka a lot lately
 
21st Jun 25 10:27 AM
pleasantsurprise
Posts 1,536
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
But you obviously expect me to reveal my role?


Ok then, I?ll get the ball rolling.

The role I was given is the Empath

I was told that my neighbours were not evil.

If my role is true then FS and AndyP are off the hook.

If I am drunk, they may both be evil. Or only one my be evil.
 
21st Jun 25 10:37 AM
BerryStraw
Posts 284
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
Ok then, I?ll get the ball rolling.

The role I was given is the Empath

I was told that my neighbours were not evil.

If my role is true then FS and AndyP are off the hook.

If I am drunk, they may both be evil. Or only one my be evil.

Thanks, PS. I'll need a bit of time to get my head around what this means for the both of us. And for the others involved.
 
21st Jun 25 10:58 AM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
I believe I was the first person to mention Investigator. I said:
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac

Firesilver - basically claiming the investigator role if I read it right? That could be taken at face value, or it could be a bold Demon play, knowing the investigator isn't in the game...perhaps even being willing to name the minion as a bargaining chip to earn our trust.

Basically - in so many words, more or less, implying without saying

If I read it right? - please tell me if you think I'm wrong or have misunderstood

I will admit I hadn't appreciated that there was another role that could have similar information but the mention of minion and poisoner in FS's post added to the implication.

However PS you have now claimed the other likely role. Did you get information last night as well?
 
21st Jun 25 11:18 AM
pleasant_2nd
Posts 961
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac
I believe I was the first person to mention Investigator. I said:

Basically - in so many words, more or less, implying without saying

If I read it right? - please tell me if you think I'm wrong or have misunderstood

I will admit I hadn't appreciated that there was another role that could have similar information but the mention of minion and poisoner in FS's post added to the implication.

However PS you have now claimed the other likely role. Did you get information last night as well?


That's what FS is saying. What if, for whatever reason FS is being economical with the actualite?
 
21st Jun 25 11:19 AM
AndyP
Posts 51
Quote:
Originally posted by Euro
Weekends are not generally good for me, that's family time.

I don't think revealing my role and any info I have would be more helpful to the town than the Mafia at this point, so I won't be doing that. I still don't trust anyone, including Hanso, as his role is yet to be confirmed. I am inclined to believe Hanso though.

My main focus is on AndyP, he has info and seemed very keen to share it with FS on day 1, his reasoning being he did not know who to trust. He has whispered to PS today, but not come to me. He also has contributed little to the group in general but worst of all, voted down on Hanso as the penultimate vote which allowed me the opportunity to leave it as a tie. He has the chance to ensure we got a lunch and did not take it and has not offered an explanation for why he did this.


Hi Euro,

It's common knowledge I had information on day 1 and acted on it (as I think doing nothing is an own goal).
I'm still figuring out who to trust or not, so have not contacted anyone I have no clue about. Feel free to whisper if you want to start communicating...
 
21st Jun 25 11:22 AM
pleasant_2nd
Posts 961
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac
I believe I was the first person to mention Investigator. I said:

Basically - in so many words, more or less, implying without saying

If I read it right? - please tell me if you think I'm wrong or have misunderstood

I will admit I hadn't appreciated that there was another role that could have similar information but the mention of minion and poisoner in FS's post added to the implication.

However PS you have now claimed the other likely role. Did you get information last night as well?


I did yes, but because my neibours are still alive there was no change in th info. Ie they were boyth 'not evil'
 
21st Jun 25 11:38 AM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
That's what FS is saying. What if, for whatever reason FS is being economical with the actualite?

Yes indeed, a possible bold demon play as I said, or a minion I suppose. Any other scenarios where FS might be muddying the waters that you care to elaborate on?

On another point - where is our second outsider? If we are playing with a drunk (which it seems pretty likely we are) then they won't know who they are. Where's our butler, our saint, our recluse? Surely the saint doesn't want us to execute them? Surely the recluse wants to clear their name?
 
21st Jun 25 11:50 AM
chyperhondriac
Posts 380
One other point before I go out and melt in the sun this afternoon - I hadn't appreciated that the poisoner could actually before the game had started (i.e., on night zero). However, the combined probability of their being a poisoner and them poisoning a specific player is 1 in 32 by my calculations so I'm choosing to count that probability fairly low in my consideration of day one.

I also think someone said that poison lasts two nights but from my understanding it is one night and the day after, so you shouldn't have two poisoned players at once. TG, could you clarify for me please?
 
21st Jun 25 11:54 AM
pleasantsurprise
Posts 1,536
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac
Yes indeed, a possible bold demon play as I said, or a minion I suppose. Any other scenarios where FS might be muddying the waters that you care to elaborate on?

On another point - where is our second outsider? If we are playing with a drunk (which it seems pretty likely we are) then they won't know who they are. Where's our butler, our saint, our recluse? Surely the saint doesn't want us to execute them? Surely the recluse wants to clear their name?


Or he could be a Good character and wants to put some players off the scent?
 
21st Jun 25 12:02 PM
TopGun2
Posts 697
Quote:
Originally posted by chyperhondriac

I also think someone said that poison lasts two nights but from my understanding it is one night and the day after, so you shouldn't have two poisoned players at once. TG, could you clarify for me please?


You are correct Chyper, the poisoning effect lasts from when the poisoner picks a player (poisoner acts first each night) until their turn the next night when they pick again and the previous pick becomes healthy again. Or, of course, it lasts until the poisoner dies if that's sooner.
 
21st Jun 25 12:47 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
Damn! I?ve missed where everyone else has revealed their roles.

What? They haven?t? They?re all being a bit cagey? Well I never! You do however, expect me to tell everyone what my role is. I wonder why?

BS, care to elaborate?


If you want people to reveal roles before you reveal yours I will start. It will probably benefit the other Townfolk anyway and make them more confident in revealing their roles. I am the Monk.
 
21st Jun 25 12:49 PM
Euro
Posts 33
Quote:
Originally posted by JustSuper
If you want people to reveal roles before you reveal yours I will start. It will probably benefit the other Townfolk anyway and make them more confident in revealing their roles. I am the Monk.


What did you do with you ability last night Super?
 
21st Jun 25 12:51 PM
TopGun2
Posts 697
Nominations are open.
 
21st Jun 25 12:51 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
And where in FS?s post does he say he?s the investigator?


I think its best not to get bogged down in what role Firesilver is. If he is revealing little information he may have a stronger role than a Investigator, therefore pretending to be an Investigator makes him not a target to the demon. I think its best to assume he is the Investigator, as whatever he is doing will benefit the Townfolk.
 
21st Jun 25 12:55 PM
JustSuper
Posts 97
Quote:
Originally posted by Euro
What did you do with you ability last night Super?


I protected myself since I didnt know any powerful roles to protect. I know I thought the Investigator was a powerful role, however I only realised Firesilver was the Investigator after Night 1.
 
 
 

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