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I know you have sort of answered this having caught up with your recent posts, but why didn't you nominate HanSo7o yourself, since you are now calling for it?

Instead, you went for JustSuper, which is a throwaway nomination & doesn't help you resolve whether it is you that's drunk. In fact, it looks like you were distancing yourself from HanSo7o?

You do have my sympathy though.

If you are the drunk outsider, we need to know which means either sending you or PS to the block, because anything the drunk adds to the game will just not be reliable information moving forward.

Didn't think of it in time. I'm under a bit of pressure, as you might understand, so I tried the easy way before I saw the better way.

I understand what you're saying about figuring out who might be the drunk, but there might be other options as well. And thanks for the sympathy, I guess.

BS could well flip town. He could also be the one that isn't drunk and the innocent party in the HanSo7o, BS, PS triangle, which will leave everyone, not just you and I under scrutiny, especially as you have voted the same way I have, but we are now getting to the point perhaps where time isn't on our side.

Are you thinking we should force a tie and use the wait and see ethos?

If I'm right, you're the only one who's still able to change his vote on me, as long as you do it before FS has voted. Just saying.

I need to go to bed soon.

My thoughts so far...

BerryStraw is putting up a valiant fight for survival and maybe the nominations running for JustSuper & HanSo7o will demonstrate whether he deserves to go to the block or not. The drunk worries me & I think BS realises the hole he's in here.

HanSo7o has put up reasonable defence, but for someone who is supposed to have a cast iron claim, his lack of consistency of words is almost like he's trying to cover a lie & not just once either. I don't have a lot of trust in him, so there is every likelihood I will raise my hand on him.

JustSuper was in my opinion a throwaway nomination. BS admits to not thinking clearly under pressure here, but JS coming across bolchy doesn't really help his case that much. He's not under any pressure and whilst he is under scrutiny, it's nothing worse than "hello... are you playing the game or not?" I don't see the logic of raising my hand on him at this point.

TG, does a vote for a different nominee negate ba previous vote?

From my understanding it does not. In fact he encouraged it to speed up the vote.

My plan is too leave my vote as I see arguments for all three nominees.

As the only one still awake. I have re-read everything and slightly changed my voting.

My hand is up for BerryStraw (still)
My hand is down for JustSuper (changed)
My hand is up for HanSo7o (still)

I think it is safer to execute HanSo7o, but I am leaving BerryStraw as up which means he will be at 5 or 6 based on the final vote (FireSilver).

If we can get to 1 more than that on HanSo7o - Great. A safe execution.

I changed on JustSuper as as much as I would wish he was more involved on the first day, he could be an asset still. But as others have said, he is on my watch list. Continued quietness could lead to a future nomination or hand up vote.

Excited to see the results when I wake up!

I think 10, 1 and 2 can change their vote too as it starts to the right of the nominee.

The rules say clockwise and also player to the left of the nominee. My brain went crazy with the left description, but it makes sense if you picture everyone sitting (facing in) in a circle. Clockwise from the nominee helps my brain though!

Not allowed to edit. But the word right should read left (I was thinking to the write if positions were written 1 through 10. (My bad).

This is going to be a loooooong post, and I apologise in advance. My thoughts on tonight's developments while I was at work.

Han and Berry continue to vote together consistently despite claiming to only have had a brief chat where they didn't fully share information. Either we have got an inexperienced evil team that we've caught easily, or something doesn't add up. If I were the demon and my minion was under suspicion, I'd stay as quiet as possible about it and certainly not be the only person to vote to keep them alive. As soon as they die, I know I'd be next on the sus list. So either Berry and Han are both evil and inexperience has let them down, or they're both town. But if they're town, why would Han vote to save someone he thinks is drunk?

Of course if Han is the minion and Berry the demon, then Han has no choice to to make a desperation play to try to save his boss.

But the fact that 6 other players have all jumped on the bandwagon makes me nervous. We've either already got a 7 town vs 2 evil vote on Day 1 (which is almost unheard of unless the evil team completely sucks) or the two evil players are rubbing their hands together because a town player is about to be lynched.

That being said, Berry's defence doesn't add up. If I were a powerful town role but someone claimed I was drunk, I would be so wary of my information that I would probably never even share it. At that point, what's the point of even having that powerful role? Berry's best defence here if he were town is to claim his role. The Demon won't be killing him tonight even if he claims, because why kill someone under this much suspicion who is probably drunk and likely to spread misinformation anyway? Yet Berry has not claimed a role even under the most heavy pressure we can throw at him. It's either bad town play, or evil play. If Berry is the Demon, he has 3 roles he could easily claim. Why would he not do so?

A number of people have posted implying that his death will give us information. Not necessarily! Roles are not revealed when a player dies, and ONLY the undertaker role will know his role, and that's if we even have one. If we do have an undertaker and he gets the information that Berry flipped town, it probably would not be worth revealing his role and becoming a target for the demon just to say that we got it wrong. Even if he did, he might be evil masquerading as the undertaker, or drunk or poisoned. Berry will be able to freely reveal his role once he can no longer use it, but we already don't trust him now, so why would that change tomorrow?

JustSuper has pulled exactly the same trick again. As soon as there is a possibility he gets nominated, he turns up. Then he adds nothing to the discussion and disappears again. This is also either evil play or bad town play, and I actually think he would be a better lynch than BerryStraw today. If we have any investigative roles, and a lot of people aren't claiming so we must have some, they can look into Berry overnight. At least Berry is engaging with us properly.

Bearing all this in mind, my personal opinion is that we should give Berry one more day. Either Han or JustSuper would be a better lynch for the town. If we vote Han then at worst we lose a role that has already used up its ability, and if we're right about Berry then Han is probably his teammate anyway. If we lynch JustSuper we get rid of an inactive player that's offered absolutely nothing other than "look, here I am", which I will lose no sleep over.

I am therefore not going to cast my vote for Berry until tomorrow afternoon, to give other players a chance to consider changing their vote, if like me they agree that Han or Super is a better first day target. Han in particular would be the best strategic lynch today even if we think Berry is evil given how close the two of them are.

This may seem counterintuitive, as I still think Berry is the most likely evil player at this time, and yet I don't want him lynched yet. I just think that strategically we could make a better lynch today, since we now HAVE to lynch someone (Berry already has 6 votes and I doubt 2 people are going to change their minds).

Berry, your best defence is still to claim your role. There's literally no danger for you in doing it now. You're about to lose it anyway if things continue as they are!

It took long enough for you to say this lol. It didn't seem to be the main reason for you voting against him. Why not?

I actually believe you.

Voting together at this stage is data, not incrimination lol.
What i believe is BS has so.ething to offer but the possibility of being Drunk will hopefully reveal itself.

Killing him isn't warranted yet. Killing someone, yes. Myself? I've posted it a few times lol, noone took notice, but now it's possibly a better plan than BS. I won't be against it, but once revealed if Librian, you need to follow through my other two names.

PS failed to encourage his agreement on killing BS, which may then help him discover his own role confirmation. Instead he chose a different reason for voti g to kill BS. That concerns me and out of us three, he should be next right after me.

You see, this is why I think we have this BerryStraw lynch wrong. It only makes logical sense, if Berry is evil, for Han to be his teammate. Everyone else has jumped on this lynch far too quickly for me to feel comfortable about it. Meanwhile Han is the only player who has actually embraced a willingness to die, which is a town trait (or admittedly a minion trait to save his demon). Despite everything that's happened so far this game saying Berry is the most suspicious player, my gut is saying we've got it wrong.

It may be too late at this point to change the trajectory of today's vote, but I really do think we should lynch either Han or Super before we lynch Berry, which can still do tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.

Don't worry, Han, you are not the only one still suspicious of PS. I'm going to keep digging on that front.

Berry, for your own sake, please claim your role. I cannot for the life of me see the Demon killing you tonight even if you claimed that you were God. The demon knows you're going to get lynched at some point this game, probably tomorrow if not today, and he will have other targets to go after.

Fedyshen and FS casting votes against me before the voting even began lol, makes you wonder.

Knowing the only two options I can be, makes it good to see who does what. Deduction is better than guesswork, affirmation can sometimes compound a reasoning or direction. But details are noted and there for everyone. What should follow, may not.. if a path ahead is clear, why is it not taken?

Words for tomorrow anyway lol..

And guys, can we please make sure we don't rush into putting our hands down for either Han or Super. We have time to change our minds on today's lynch, if like me you feel that something isn't quite right here.

It's nothing against you Han. If anything, I get more town vibes from you every time you post and as you grow into the game. This is part of why I agree with you that BS might not be the right lynch today, but if we want to avoid it now, the only way will be by getting a consensus of more than 6 votes on someone else. You and Super are likely the only ones who could gather 6 votes, IMO. Are you willing to sacrifice yourself to keep Berry in the game?

Why am I trying to save Berry on a gut feeling when my brain is telling me it makes logical sense for him to be evil? I have no idea. I was one of the first to push on him, and now I'm trying to save him... I'm sure someone is going to call me out on this, but this is a social deduction game, and right now I have alarm bells ringing that we're being played.

I'm not going to claim a role right now, despite all the pressure. I think with what I have put out there, everyone should be able to narrow down their lists to only a few roles - and I might as well be the drunk.

Also, if I make a full, public, true claim now, I think it would help the evil side more than the town, looking at where I'm at. Making a false claim isn't going to help the town either and would probably make things even harder for me than they are right now. So I'm going to leave it as is.

Something else, I'm a bit worried about information concentrating too much in one place. You know what I mean, FS, you have been whispering with three players and shared next to nothing about it. Of course, you can have very good reasons for this and I believe you would be able to bolt together a watertight plan to find out who the evil players are, but at the same time you could be creating a well thought out cover story and a plan to set us town folks up against each other and eliminate us one by one.

Either way, well played until now to get into this position. And thank you for trying to stop the bandwagon, or to make the others at least re-evaluate their choices. You are taking a risk with that, I know. At the same time, the moment you can say 'see, I told you' to everyone else will probably make up for it.

I'd be surprised to see my head still on my shoulders when I get back here tonight. Have a nice day everyone, and make sure you do the right thing.