| Quote: Originally posted by chyperhondriacIndeed, it was a paraphrasing of the impression I got from your posts, not a direct quote.
In my mind there have been a few players who have been here without giving much away - PS, fedyshen, even BB. Then there's Andy who I haven't seen much or anything of in here, in spite of a few whispers.
Everyone knows my character so there's not much I can exchange with people in private or reveal on here. I guess that's the lot of the traveller - if I'd known I could have gone AWOL for several days maybe I'd have started from day one  
Apologies chyperhondriac for the double quote.
I play as if I am vanilla mostly, but there are no vanilla roles in the game, so yes I give little away.
As you have asked, I do have a role and it could be useful to town, but like the roles already revealed, I only get one shot at it. | |
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| I've finally got home from work with a cracking headache from the heat and then had to read JustSuper's whisper and then the thread, none of which has improved my headache at all.
Suffice to say I do not want to be posting in this thread right now, and definitely shouldn't as I'm not at my best, but I rather have to given that I kickstarted the conversation today.
The overwhelming sense that I'm getting is that the time to claim roles and share information is coming- maybe not today, but certainly tomorrow. There is not enough trust between the town and that's exactly what the evil team wants. If the town trusts each other, it will win. We're all scared of sharing our information because we might be poisoned, we might be drunk, we were given 2 names and we don't know which of the two is the true one. Obviously the demon and minion are going to lie, but with information out there we can probably piece together who the who likely liars are given the corroborating evidence of who has genuinely looked like they're trying to help the town. Only one person can be drunk and only two at a time can be poisoned, only one on the first night. The rest of us have reliable information. If the powerful town roles all claim at the same time (and surely we have at least a couple, hopefully 3 or 4) then the demon can't night kill them all at the same time. There are too many what ifs and maybe for any of us to be doing this alone.
I do not feel in the right mindset to play detective right now. PS just sounds cross and disappointed with me, which I wasn't expecting, and I'm starting to doubt myself. I need to whisper AndyP more than ever. I thought I had the most likely scenario worked out, but for some reason tonight I've totally lost confidence in myself.
I doubt I'm going to be able to sleep, so I'm going to take half an hour to relax and come back in a better mindset and hopefully a more useful post. | |
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| No, I just can't shake my headache.
I'm going to bed. I need to whisper AndyP before I do anything else anyway. Andy, please can you whisper request me when you're done whispering to PS? I'll probably be asleep until midday though... | |
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| I don't know if I've missed it somewhere, but Euro, now that you're dead and basically confirmed as town, can you share your role and any information you have gained from it with us please? | |
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| Han, can you please share with us why you were willing to sacrifice yourself to save Berry? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver
Han, can you please share with us why you were willing to sacrifice yourself to save Berry?
No.... that's not what I did.
My role, as either the Librarian or Drunk, was done. I received two names, of which we know both now.
The reasoning behind my vote for myself, was to avoid a tie. That would look very suspicious wouldn't it. A minion wouldn't die that easily on day 1 surely... a townie would. I had hoped my role would be somewhat revealed upon dying, but alas that fail makes me feel a tad sad I died in vain. Euro dying, when I first nominated him too, makes me feel we're on a path of implosion.
We should perhaps be looking more into the Euro killing than we are... I failed to gain the trust of Euro, probably from my nomination of him, but the key is there. It is more significant than we likely realise and needs resolving. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver
Han, can you please share with us why you were willing to sacrifice yourself to save Berry?
On a side note to the above ;
My role would not be too unsimilar to the one you claim ; knowing info on one of two players. You failed to name both, for fear of ? If the claim is to be believed, and felt worth investigating - surely you can reveal that?
Our hopes, as you stated above, are for the town to start claiming roles and begin info sharing. You have mentioned PS as one of your claims, and I too have done so in my Drunk claims. A third involving him, would most certainly cast serious doubts, over the doubts some are having on him already. Those now discovering very little is revealed when kills occur, may feel that makes a great way of spreading chaos easily.
For all we know, FS isn't telling the whole truth. A clearly great player, and very persuasive. Something appears to have knocked his confidence this morning and maybe just a life thing. Be good to know more of what is discovered through the many whispers FS has at weekend end.
If there is a Spy out there, and the way the game has been setup, there surely is... then you need to be believed. Working with the dead must surely be a good base to secure your own thoughts through the spirit world lol?
I also want an undertaker, beginning to smell here....  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by HanSo7o
No.... that's not what I did.
As he said to me. HanSo7o didn?t want to make day 2 an argument about his role again. So he thought his death would provide clarity and allow the town to move on to new challenges.
Right or wrong, I get his logic. | |
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| I think I shouldn't be throwing accusations around like on day 1 and also that I'm lacking a lot of info as I haven't played trustworthy enough so far. Can't help it, I guess. But I think I should bring this to the front now anyway. Feel free to correct me via post or whisper.
Can we assume by now that PS is not going to answer any questions about his role? He's been stalling things as if he had missed FS's posts and after I gave him the direct references he's been silent about them. He never misses the chance to have a bit of banter in between, though. What does this tell us?
PS, care to elaborate? Anyone else? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by BerryStraw
I think I shouldn't be throwing accusations around like on day 1 and also that I'm lacking a lot of info as I haven't played trustworthy enough so far. Can't help it, I guess. But I think I should bring this to the front now anyway. Feel free to correct me via post or whisper.
Can we assume by now that PS is not going to answer any questions about his role? He's been stalling things as if he had missed FS's posts and after I gave him the direct references he's been silent about them. He never misses the chance to have a bit of banter in between, though. What does this tell us?
PS, care to elaborate? Anyone else?
Damn! I?ve missed where everyone else has revealed their roles.
What? They haven?t? They?re all being a bit cagey? Well I never! You do however, expect me to tell everyone what my role is. I wonder why?
BS, care to elaborate? | |
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| While I?m on, I?m still waiting for someone to point out where FS has claimed Investigator. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
Damn! I?ve missed where everyone else has revealed their roles.
What? They haven?t? They?re all being a bit cagey? Well I never! You do however, expect me to tell everyone what my role is. I wonder why?
BS, care to elaborate?
Well, I'm not going to speak for any others. But I put a few hints out there and for the rest I plainly stated that I wouldn't be revealing my role just yet.
You, however, have been 'missing' FS's posts, been unable to search for them yourself and probably 'missed' the FS quotes I posted as well, or 'forgot' there were any questions to you about it.
Just don't play the fool here, PS. You and I are both under scrutiny as we appeared in some night 1 info that's been shared early on. Your name even appeared in 2 messages, apparently. Even if the information is off, those questions are fair. You can come up with a better answer than you have until now, even without sharing your role. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
While I?m on, I?m still waiting for someone to point out where FS has claimed Investigator.
All the dots have been connected already, PS  | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by BerryStraw
Well, I'm not going to speak for any others. But I put a few hints out there and for the rest I plainly stated that I wouldn't be revealing my role just yet.
You, however, have been 'missing' FS's posts, been unable to search for them yourself and probably 'missed' the FS quotes I posted as well, or 'forgot' there were any questions to you about it.
Just don't play the fool here, PS. You and I are both under scrutiny as we appeared in some night 1 info that's been shared early on. Your name even appeared in 2 messages, apparently. Even if the information is off, those questions are fair. You can come up with a better answer than you have until now, even without sharing your role.
But you obviously expect me to reveal my role? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by FiresilverI think the time is also right to reveal some information of my own. It's probably too late to change the trajectory of today's lynch, so this is mainly for people to think about overnight while the thread is locked and to kick start the Day 2 discussion.
On night 1 I was given information that one of two player names could be a minion.
I say deliberately. It would be very much like TG to set up a game with a recluse and give that name to an investigative role. Recluse is the role I was fishing for earlier, but still no-one has come forward and said so. I could also still be drunk if Han is lying about Berry and PS. I'm not going to reveal right now whether there's a poisoner in the game, for reasons that will eventually become crystal clear, but I also be poisoned.
It might be reasonably obvious to anyone willing to do a little digging through the thread during the downtime of the night phase what the two names are, and I'm not going to confirm them quite yet, because there is value in making people that I've put pressure on sweat, and maybe make a mistake. I may have blown this to an extent earlier today, but such is life. Obviously I will reveal more if and when I get killed and everyoone will know my information is honest. I shall rest easy tonight, lying outside in the crisp open air of our beautiful town and watching the stars with a smile on my face, knowing that the evil team is suddenly panicking. 
One other thing: if we have an empath in play, I would absolutely love to whisper with you tomorrow, please. Don't rush into it, and if someone with a role that wants to be killed by the Demon (like the Saint for example) could bluff whisper me to muddy the waters for the evil team too, that would be great.
I've never played a town role where I've been able to make the evil team squirm before. They are usually the ones with the information. This game is great!
BlueBoar, I need to whisper to you first thing tomorrow, before you comment on anything I have just shared, please. Regardless of your alignment, you will enjoy what I have to say to you.
PS, what do you make of this? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by BerryStrawAll the dots have been connected already, PS
Ah! The old ?joining the dots? inference.
What you mean is he hasn?t actually come out and said he?s the investigator. Everyone is just assuming so. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver
Right, time for me to get to business.
As I mentioned yesterday, I need to whisper BlueBoar quickly to follow up on something I whispered to him on Day 1, but I am going to share the following information as promised:
Pleasantsurprise was one of the two names in my PM on Night 1.
The other name in my PM I'm not revealing yet, for reasons that will become clear later in the game. Suffice to say, right now, I do not think they are the minion (although I could be wrong!)
I would advise our undertaker (if we have one) not to reveal HanSo7o's character UNLESS your result tells you specifically that he was the minion (which would require a combination of character roles that is possible, but highly unlikely in my opinion). If he was the minion, Berry is probably the demon, and I'm just plain wrong (perhaps drunk). If Han was telling the truth (and for now we probably assume he was, given that he sacrificed himself willingly, he could have tied the vote yesterday if he'd wanted to) then Berry is probably good after all (albeit probably also drunk).
On top of the fact that I'm incredibly suspicious of how PS has played throughout the game, and my Night 1 result telling me he could be the minion, if he dies and flips not drunk, Berry will then know he is drunk. We'd have 2 almost-confirmed town players in Han and Berry. We may also then learn other information as well depending on other people's roles and information.
There is another thing that gives me an inkling about PS being the minion as well, but it's not time to share that yet either.
So go on then, PS. What exactly have you been up to this game, hmm?
Better add this for PS being unable to find said posts | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
Ah! The old ?joining the dots? inference.
What you mean is he hasn?t actually come out and said he?s the investigator. Everyone is just assuming so.
Certainly not assuming, we know what that makes of us...
What was a concern, is yourself not being able to find where he said it... regardless of whether the claim is true or not. You concern me, being part of a triangle, if I remove myself and FS. You, Berrystraw and the unnamed... | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by HanSo7o
PS, what do you make of this?
I don?t think you?re lying Han. It?s quite obvious that either me or BS is an outsider drunk.
The question is, how to decide. Do you have a magic way of determining whether one is drunk or not? Because I don?t. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by HanSo7oCertainly not assuming, we know what that makes of us...
What was a concern, is yourself not being able to find where he said it... regardless of whether the claim is true or not. You concern me, being part of a triangle, if I remove myself and FS. You, Berrystraw and the unnamed...
Well I?ve searched and searched and still can?t find where he said ?I am the investigator?. Mind you, my eyesight is pretty poor? | |
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