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I replied and ended the whisper. Loooong day!

I will be home shortly after tonight's update.

Still nothing from JustSuper - would certainly be good to hear from him

Interesting chat with PS, but I'm still not quite sure how I feel about him. He said some things that reassured me, but I disagree with the last thing he said to me in particular (and it made me suspicious of him again), and he's played enough mafia games to know what to say to allay my suspicions about him and redirect them to someone else.

I think I'm going to let someone else take the lead for the nomination phase and see what happens. Right now I have 3 players that are registering on my sus-o-meter, but nothing certain enough against any of them to be confident in nominating them.

If I had to nominate someone (and to be clear I'm not going to), then it would be JustSuper. Town or evil, there's nothing more detrimental to the good side than someone who refuses to engage in any way. It's immensely frustrating, especially if he has a key role that the game is balanced around.

The last thing I said to you is an option. It depends whether you trust me or not.

As you said earlier, sometimes you just have to jump.

But I can see that you might prefer to wait awhile to consider what develops.

God the times we?ve seen this in previous Mafia games, so frustrating and fairly insulting to the game organiser.

Yes I am happy to take the hit for the Town.

I don't get how I'm saying otherwise, as I don't think it wise for the evil folk to take me out, and they likely won't. However, it may be wise for us to take me out should we ever need to. It's a role that we have little purpose for once used.

I'm wary of a few here still, some muddying waters, some not replying. Obviously reasons for etc...

If you play poker long enough, you'll realise that it can only be what you make it.

There are bluffs in this game and evil can wreak havoc with them, but we have to rise to the challenges before us.

Your point about sharing info like a game of roulette is a valid point, but until we know how useful (or not) it is, we should use it and try to garner as much info as possible.

Why not just share the information publicly rather than privately in random fashion?

You are fast becoming a nomination from me...!

Feels a fair question no? I'm not advocating the sharing of information, happy to listen to arguments of the contrary, but to ask why it's better to share privately rather than publicly feels fair?

I agree entirely.

We seem to attract at least one every game & that is really frustrating. I would be hesitant about nominating though too as it could be a character on our side that will be useful to keep, regardless of day or night action.

There are a handful of roles that are given info at the start.... hence the sharing or the game of bluff to see if a whisper gains the required reply or puts more questions into the frame for the player asking. If anything, it is a baseline to remember, and maybe prove valuable later.

It just seems you asked why I went ahead early and publicly and then contradicted yourself in why not openly chat. If your own role proves to you one thing, is that you have a part to play - either at the beginning or at some point. Failing that, you are seeking info on what can be gained for evil purposes.. it's all possible at this stage.

Well, you certainly can't say I haven't shared information publicly. I have probed and prodded a couple of players, as well as adding my views on why I asked questions. I think my contribution has earned me the right to have a whisper or two.

You see, the whispers helps contain information that players may feel uncomfortable about sharing widely, so by talking to one player, if something happens to you and the reveal is at odds with what was discussed, only one person knew about it and it can lead to things being verified/confirmed as we move forward.

Is there any reason why you feel whispers is unfair perhaps?
How is it hindering you personally?

Can you explain that in a little more detail? Personally I have 3 people on my radar & you are 1 of them.

My reasoning in your case is that:-

A) If your claim that you are Librarian is proven, your role is now vanilla and whilst either you, berrystraw or pleasantsurprise may have been drunk (for reasons I am not privy to), there is still a lot to be gained from your claim.

B) However, when you speculated that evil wouldn't come after you but you were worried about being killed, I really felt you had a conflict of interests there & perhaps more to lose than you claim? No townie would be worried about being killed if their role was spent as they can still contribute after they die.

The other two people are Euro & Pleasantsurprise, with the latter doing little here to make me feel he is helping or working for the greater good.

Unsure how your reasoning makes me a suspect.
I am also happy to die, as it may serve a purpose if you can offer one. My role is vanilla, but I only had one whisper and can be seen to be working on the role I was given.

So, you don't have more to lose than you are letting on?

That's all I wanted to know really, for now.

I have just had a read through the day 1 excitement.

If I am honest, only Euro bothers me right now & only a little bit.

HanSo70 hasn't really buckled under scrutiny.

Pleasantsurprise, whilst he has only been dipping in and out, thus far, nothing he has said publicly, has triggered me in any way. However, he is smart, even if he was signalling early confusion, so we should be wary of him.

I think my question has been misunderstood (maybe deliberately?) and it really is a genuine question I am trying to understand....

Why would/could it be advantageous to share information privately to someone random who may be good but may be evil over sharing the information publicly?