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Originally posted by BerryStraw
Soooo, just diving in, fooling around and see what happens from there hasn't really been a good strategy in this field, I guess. Fair enough.

I think I've been pretty clear about my intentions from the start and apart from my role, I haven't hid anything from the public. If that makes me suspect, so be it.

To clarify some things: Han posted about hoping his information during our whisper wasn't too vague. Our whisper had already ended by then. When I re-read our messages after this post, I understood his suggestions carried more weight than I thought at first instance. Of course things became even more clear after he claimed to be the librarian. I must say I have no reason to doubt his claims so far. Only thing I'm surprised about is that he both was a quick first poster after TG opened this thread as well as the nominations thread. Matter of minutes, but this proves nothing.

Another point. I chose to invite Euro for a whisper quite randomly, as he was one of the few not whispering with someone else or with a request pending at that time. As I stated before, he reacted very defensively. After I told him I thought he kept his cards very close to his chest, his replies came across as a bit ehh, stressy, maybe, at least that's what I read from them. The rest is out here for everyone to see.

Last point for now: I was mistaken about the voting procedure. I thought it was: most votes goes down, but I wasn't aware that a majority is needed to execute a player. Wouldn't have changed my vote if I had understood, because it didn't make sense at all. Genuine mistake.

Originally posted by Euro_2nd
Hello Berry, just so it's all out in the open, after you stated that I am keeping my cards close to my chest, my response was 'Honestly - I genuinely am trying to piece together everything, the setup is much more complicated than I am used to' and then you ended the whisper.

Curious as to what about that response comes across as stressy?

Originally posted by Euro_2nd
Hello Berry, just so it's all out in the open, after you stated that I am keeping my cards close to my chest, my response was 'Honestly - I genuinely am trying to piece together everything, the setup is much more complicated than I am used to' and then you ended the whisper.

Curious as to what about that response comes across as stressy?

Originally posted by BlueBoar
Now, here's the kicker. BerryStraw was the only other player to raise his hand against Euro, but he later lowered it, but why? Euro wasn't going on the block with only two votes, so the rational that BerryStraw wanted to make something happen, was diluted by removing the vote rather than sticking with his gut. Something doesn't add up with BerryStraw and I will be raising my hand there.

Originally posted by BerryStraw
I know my case on you is very thin, so I decided to lower the bar a bit for other potential nominees or get us a draw. Technically, you're still first in line, though. So it might be time for you to try something better than to return the favour to me or trying to throw JustSuper under the bus?

Originally posted by Firesilver
I think this is a good call. I'd be willing to take a punt on him, depending on his defence, which I shall wait to see what it is.

This was on my crib sheet as something I was going to come back to this later, but now is a good a time as any.


Han hasn't expanded on what he told you as far as I can tell, but what could he have told you that made you doubt there was a drunk? This, along with the dodgy voting, general evasion, and the fact you've been fed an easy alibi as a possible drunk, all adds up to you being the most suspicious player in the game at this precise moment. Han, do you think Berry was right to react this way to what you whispered to him?

Originally posted by TopGun2
Thanks. Nomination could be done for reasons beyond necessarily wanted the person actually executed (for example someone might want to nominate someone they believe to be a virgin purely to trigger the virgin ability) but also the nominee's defence might be strong enough that the nominator changes their mind and doesn't want to vote after all. Thus the nominator still has to express a choice on the vote

Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
Sorry. Posted in the wrong account. Does it matter?

Originally posted by pleasant_2nd
This is a tricky one alright.

I voted against Euro being lynched because I didn't believe there was too much of a case against him.

Now BS has been nominated I feel there is more of a case against him . I do believe we have to kill someone (TG's advice was quite strong about this) and until we have more info out there I'm (albeit reluctanly) going to vote for him.

One way or another I reckon we'll learn a lot if he does die so don't take it to heart BS.

You could say you've drawn the short...er...er

Originally posted by BerryStraw
In the meantime, JustSuper has vanished again. I don't think I'll ever see him again in my life...

TG, can I make another nomination while votes on me are still running, or should I wait to see if I live by the end of this voting round first?

Originally posted by BerryStraw
In the meantime, JustSuper has vanished again. I don't think I'll ever see him again in my life...

TG, can I make another nomination while votes on me are still running, or should I wait to see if I live by the end of this voting round first?

Originally posted by BlueBoar
I agree with the fact that we need to break eggs to make an omelette here, but you haven't really given any strong reasoning for your vote. You feel there is a case, but have not really stated any real opinions for us to agree with or in fact provide count arguments.

Makes it seem like you're just jumping on the bandwagon for the sake of a kill, but that's just my opinion.

Originally posted by TopGun2
You can nominate whilst the other is running, it'll help keep things moving.

Originally posted by HanSo7o
My thoughts, and still thinking... is Berrystraw is someone who has a role still to play. He gained no information at the start of the game, so that tells me something but not alot in terms of good/evil. It simply tells me he may have a part yet to play, so he will need time to do so.

What he decides to do with time, if given, will then see me think harder regarding his actions onwards.

As I have stated, he and PS are possible Drunks - so given the unlikely scenario both are evil, I'm hopeful they will come forward with their own suggestions in the next day phase.

If any are thinking I'm voting the same way as BS, and we're a pair - he is the only one I've whispered. If he was passing along anything, then Euro would be either a target or an accomplice. The fact they are vote swopping only muddys the waters imo. I'm still of the opinion Euro isn't all he seems. I'm working on several ideas at present, so the voting will be interesting.

Originally posted by pleasantsurprise
You youself made the case againsr BS earlier